Well, I'm committed. (Home Improvement)

Once upon a time, seventy-odd years ago, someone built a house. Over the decades it has received additions and improvements, but it’s difficult to tell exactly what’s been added. A case in point, the living room fireplace.

The fireplace is made of fieldstone. At some point someone shoved a two-door Fisher cast iron stove into the firebox. There’s no liner in the chimney, so the smoke came out of the stoves damper and went up a basically empty box. It was obviously used to heat the house (and another fireplace was built into the front bedroom addition), but somewhere along the line baseboard and electric wall heaters were installed. Who knows the last time it was used?

A friend bought the house in 2001. He disconnected the electric heaters because they cost so much to run. How did he do it? Did he cut the wires? Or did he just take out the fuses? I don’t know. He looked into getting the chimney repaired, which would have entailed installing a liner. It was only a couple hundred dollars more to install a propane wall heater instead, so he went that route. So since I bought the house from him in 2003 I’ve had a non-functional eyesore in the living room.

We’ve been designated an ‘Urban Growth Area’ (Ha!) so there’s a permanent outdoor burn ban. After last year’s wind storms I suddenly have a lot of firewood. Not to mention scrap lumber from home improvements. Last year also brought heavy snow and power outages. If the propane truck can’t get here and there’s no electricity, it can get pretty cold. (I’ve bought a 3kw (2.5 continuous) Honda generator, so that alleviates the electricity problem.) Time to fix the chimney.

The chimney sweep (from Haulin’ Ash – cute name) pulled the Fisher stove and cleaned everything up. He said I could just use it as-is, but the stove won’t last long. I could have him install a new liner, but it wouldn’t fit the new stove when the time comes. And there’s a danger of a chimney fire. Or I could install a brand new, efficient cast iron stove.

I’ve elected to buy a new stove. It’s a Napoleon EPA insert with a glass front and two 200 cfm blowers. Someone, somewhere along the line, removed a corner of the fireplace. Or maybe it was built that way for sort of a ‘wrap-around’ effect. But this caused structural problems so they stacked bricks in the corner. They didn’t lay the bricks, with mortar and everything; they just stacked them. So Haulin’ Ash will replace the masonry there. There will be the new insulated liner of course, and the cracks in the chimney will be repaired and the chimney will be waterproofed.

A chimney mason came out last month. He said I should have the existing chimney repaired, as it would cost ten kilobucks to replace it – plus the fireplace insert, which would cost another kilobuck or two. The new cast-iron stove, which kind of looks like a fireplace since it has the glass front, will cost less than half of that and will include the new liner, spark arrestor, masonry repairs, waterproofing, and in-front-of-the-stove tile. I’ll be able to supplement the propane heater and portable radiator-style oil-filled heater, get rid of the wood that came down during the storms, protect the house somewhat from moisture, add value to my home, and improve the looks of my living room.

Work starts next week.

Wonderful. :slight_smile:

One item of note, if any of your “scrap lumber from home improvements” is treated, don’t burn it. Some nasty toxic stuff from that.

Enjoy your project!

Fireplace fun!
I just bought a house with six fireplaces. Sort of. Two of them had been walled over and uncovered in a half-assed fashion. One of the three chimneys is discontinued at the top (knocked off the last time they re-roofed). However, one of them was functioning at the time I viewed the house. There was a merry blaze burning in there, warming the cockles of the occupants’ hearts on a blustery January day.

I am amazed they didn’t burn the place down.

Previous occupants had not had the chimeny(s) inspected during their 4yr stay there.
My first thought was that the mantle is too close to the firebox per regulations - there’s very little inflamable surround before fire meets wood. Closer inspection (read when I cleaned out the pile of ash they left behind) revealed no hearth - just a stack of garden bricks. But wait! It gets better!
The firebox floor was nonexistant. In its place was a pile of more loose bricks.
Under that pile of loose bricks was a charred piece of wooden panneling.
Under the piece of wood was . . . the basement.

We’ve bought a gas burning vented insert and are awaiting being flush with cash to hire a chimeny professional to help us make the necessary repairs and installation. Several of the other fireplaces will remain decorative.

Long time wood burner here.Don’t use your “scrap lumber from home improvements” if it’s SPF.Lots of creosote,and I believe hard on the catalytic converter if your stove has one.OK for kindling though.
Also,if your stove will take outside air,now’s the time to put a line in.

This house has two fireplaces… and three chimneys! I’ve described the living room fireplace. The bedroom fireplace is ugly. Really ugly. White glazed tile makes it look like a public lavatory. The fireplace has been blocked off by a sheet of plywood since I bought the house. The outside is worse. It has a brick core. I can tell, because the river rock that had been applied to the outside is falling off. And someone had allowed ivy to grow on it. Good idea, that; letting plants grow up to over the top of where heat and sparks come out. It’s been long killed, but the up-to-3" stalks are still there. Why? Well, it appears that they were mortared over when the rocks were applied! :eek: Again, it will cost a million pennies to tear it down and put up a new one; plus the insert. I dont think so. I think a better plan would be to tear it down and just have a wall. I can put a much-needed bookshelf in its place.

And then there’s the Mystery Chimney. It comes out of the middle of the roof. There’s a drywalled corner of the bathroom that is obviously where this approximately 1.5-foot square chimney exists. What was there? Pot-bellied stove? How did it fit in with the rest of the house? Is the bathroom part of the original structure? Or was it added? If it’s not the original bathroom, where was the original bathroom? Was there one? Or was there an outhouse? (There seems to be the remnants of an old well in the back yard. Just a threaded pipe coming out of a concrete square, with a concrete basin sitting on a stump next to it. So I’m guessing this place didn’t have plumbing in 1934.)

I like old mystery houses!
Our previous house (which we’re in the process of selling, please don’t get me started on the home inspector’s report) was built in 1935 and it came with plumbing back then. However the municipal system didn’t exist yet. There’s a ~6’ square subterranian “room” off the back of the foundation with a 3" diameter hole in the middle of it. In that now walled-off room there is a HUGE metal beast of a pump that supplied running water to the rest of the street.

Usually the lack of original indoor plumbing is evident in the awkwardness of any bathrooms.

I can’t really tell what was built when. (Not that I’ve thought about it much.) Let me see…

The kitchen, living room, laundry room, bathroom, middle bedroom and back bedroom are basically arranged in a rectagular box. The middle bedroom shares a wall with the kitchen. A closet has been built on that wall, and the bacl of the closet seems to have an opening for a kitchen window. So is the middle bedroom not original to the house? If not then the little bedroom isn’t either, else there would be a ‘notch’ in the back of the house. But if the rear bedrooms aren’t original, then that would mean that half of the living room would stick out like an L. Given the way many old cabins up here were built, that seems unusual.

Maybe the house was originally helf the depth that it is now? One clue is in the attic. There’s a partial wall above where the kitchen/middle bedroom wall is now. It doesn’t go back to the laundry room, and I don’t recall but I think it does not extend to the living room. A couple of problems there: Not including at least the front half of the living room would make for a very tiny house. And that ‘mystery chimney’ would be outside of the box. I suppose that could be; a chimney outside with a small stove inside.

The thing is, things don’t seem to line up. There’s a box structure (like a pillar) between the kitchen and the living room. This would seem to be a logical original divider between the original house and the back of the house (assuming that the back is an addition). Only this ‘pillar’ isn’t at the corner of the kitchen, and it lines up at about the middle of the living room fireplace. I could go on and on. The one thing I’m absoultely sure of is that the front bedroom is an addition. The rest is a mystery. And the Mystery Chimney? Better to leave it. As long as it’s there I can imagine someone hid a big bag of $20 gold pieces in there and they got walled in.

In any case, the stacked-brick corner of the living room fireplace should be replaced Wednesday. I may have the new glass-fronted wood-burning stove installed on Friday. The chimney repair and waterproofing will be weather-permitting. If holiday plans don’t change, it should be nice and cozy for Thanksgiving.

The new stove was put in yesterday. A little while ago I started my fist fire in it. Unfortunately I didn’t cover the stack of cut-up deadfall that is on the patio. It was nice and dry a couple of months ago, but now it’s wetted with rain. ‘Adopt, adapt and improve.’ (That’s the motto of the Round Table.) Or more to the point: Use it anyway. I selecetd several lengths of apple branch, up to about an inch and a half in diameter. I started a fire with newspaper and added some cardboard and put the sticks on top of it. Didn’t burn very long, but some of the wood remained smouldering. I found a short plank, about a foot long, and cut it up with a machete. (Note to self: Buy an axe.) That didn’t burn well either. But when I kept the glass door open a bit, it finally started burning nicely. I shut the door and the fire burned down. (BTW the damper is fully open.) Now the little apple branches are glowing happily and there’s a small flame. Very little smoke is coming out of the chimney. I’ve plugged in the fan, and it’s very effective blowing warm air out of the top vent.

John, I’ll bet your house was built as a summer cabin originally.
In the '30s around here, summer cabins (even some year-round houses) didn’t have indoor plumbing, except maybe a single cold water spigot or hand pump in the kitchen or pantry. Water was probably obtained from a hand-dug well. No electricity either. Remember, Birch Bay was the deep woods back then.

My guess is there was a wood burning range in the kitchen, which was where the bathroom is now. I’m thinking that, because it was a common way to remodel. Since adding a bathroom meant needing plumbing, it was easier to put the bathroom where the water came into the house. The new kitchen could be replumbed after the bathroom was up and running.