It was not, repeat NOT a funeral. The funeral had been held, it was quiet, family only, zero reporters, zero photo ops, zero politics. Did I mention NOT a funeral? Tommy Thompson, Republican attendee, stated specificly that he had no problem with the proceedings.
Nobody made anybody do anything. The people who came to the memorial brought the feeling with them. It was thiers, it was an authentic expression of that feeling. They had a depth of emotion and committment that you are apparently unfamiliar with. Rather a pity, that. And your sexual orgy innuendo is as unseemly as it is false. So far, it would seem that of the attendees the only one deeply pissed is Jesse “The Body” Ventura, the Sgt. Rock of non-combatants.
Of course, this comes from “trailer trash”. (An insult that, for all your presumed propriety and delicate gentility, you have yet to withdraw.) Perhaps you would have preferred a “Platinum Card only” memorial in a gated community. You’d likely not find any such behavior at a Libertarian service of a similar nature, as most likely all 12 of the participants would be quite restrained.
Funeral, Memorial, same difference. Honoring the dead and all.
I knew it wasn’t a funeral because that would have been on hallowed ground, and we all know Bill Clinton can’t enter hallowed ground, and he was there.
Anyway, Why was Jesse the Mind so perturbed?
Umm, no offense meant, but you are trailer trash, aren’t you?
There was that whole thing about noodling, remember?
Sure, but he didn’t know that. If he sneers at peckerwoods, it may be accurate, but the intent is to insult and demean, as I’m quite sure you understand. I appreciate your dilemma, finding myself in complete agreement with you twice in as many days in unnerving to me as well.
You SUV-driving, Earth raping, Bambi killing toady of the Ruling Class.
Of course. But remember, that I am military brat off-base rented trailer trash. I could only gaze wistfully across the vast socioeconomic gap separtating the likes of me from the upper strata of trailer trash royalty like yourself.
You probably owned the wall you had your backs up against. We were just renting.
When you let him treat the appelation as an insult, you let down mullet-headed Joes all across this great nation of ours. You dishonor the piles of aluminum beer cans in the overgrown grass next to the front stoop. Every tied out vicious Rottweiler and Pitbull weeps in its circle of bare dirt, and every truck up on blocks rusts a little bit further, sags a little deeper on its springs.
Somewhere out there on a muddy riverbank, next to the garbagepile, is a dirty little boy picking his nose as he noodles for catfish.
What of that boy?
Hopefully just a coincidence. I’d hate to think we were contaminating each other.
If you are referring to my slanderous and scurrilous assault on Scylla, it is intended in sarcastic good humor, unsullied by questions of taste and propriety. He’s a big boy, he can take it. You could learn a lot from him.
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One of us is misreading Mojo’s statement. I understood it to mean that the memorial for Sen. Wellstone was so tasteless that even a former pro wrestler was offended. I thought it was funny, even though, as I said, I do not agree.
As far as your comparison involving Clinton, that is not a strictly accurate comparison. If I am correct in thinking that you thought that Mojo was criticizing The Body, an better comparison would be Newt Gingrich attacking Clinton’s morality. And even that is not strictly valid, because Clinton has not held himself up as a paragon of sexual morality and judge of others’ morality, as Gingrich has. The best comparison would be an imaginary one: if Clinton were to criticize Gingrich for his extramarital sex.
We didn’t even rent the wall we were up against. It was on-base housing, the kind afforded to 2nd Looies and thier whelps. Master Sgts. sneered at Bird Colonels, Bird Colonels sneered at non-coms, both ignored Jr. Officers as being beneath the effort of such contempt. (I was living on a SAC base during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Colonels kids didn’t go to school, there was an extraordinary rash of illness amongst the children of the upper ranks.)
As for our shared incarnations as grubby little catfishers, there was very little noodling on the Brazos, it wasn’t a river one immersed oneself in willingly. Local Baptists rented swimming pools for thier ceremonies. Snapping turtles, water moccasins and turds were the mainstays of the ecosystem.
Does it astonish you as well as I that these days there are people who willingly eat catfish, and pay good money for the privilege? And what is it about military brats, anyway? Seems to leave some undefinable stain on the character, but one that you can’t quite put your finger on?
Your criticism is well taken, nonetheless. I withdraw any notion of insult at the appelation “trailer trash”. However, I recycle all my beer cans, and the only vehicle I have available to put on blocks is a bicycle. Its not easy being Green.
So it would appear that there has been a small negative for Mondale from the service.
Other handicapping: Coleman has rejected a negative ad about Mondale, sent to his campaign by the national Republican Party. This is good - negative ads are not a good idea under the circumstances, and Coleman’s rejection of such an ad is itself positive publicity. Also:
This is good for Coleman, as it suggests that an issues oriented campaign has more potential for him than for Mondale. (Mondale’s conservative support may be residual Wellstone goodwill, or may reflect the fact that conservatives tend be older and are thus more likely to remember his glory days).
Well, the final results are in, and Coleman wins by about 3 points. In light of the timing of the turnaround in the polls, and the specific poll about the ceremony cited earlier, you would have to think the ceremony played a factor. And considering the closeness of the result, I would think it is likely that this was indeed the deciding factor. (Also, I would guess that Mondale’s overaggressive performance in the debate did not help him).
IzzyR, you cannot use the Star Tribune Poll as a guide. The Star Tribune is a very pro-democrat newspaper and their polls have always been very far off the actual results. I have lived here since 1995 and the Trib has always been very far off the mark.
I heard a couple times on the election coverage last night experts discussing the Wellstone effect. They were referring to how many voters were turned off by the over the top memorial service.
carries the results of a post-election poll of people who actually voted, which shows that 22% of Coleman’s supporters – not quite a quarter-million votes – decided to vote for him after the memorial service. This compares to only 3% of Mondale supporters who made their decision at that time.
The influence as most strongly felt among independent voters. 80% of Independence Party voters (Jesse’s party) and 65% of people without party affiliation went for Coleman.
Well, it could be, seen enough talk to that effect. Heavens knows the media talked up it up enough, not to mention the usual pundits and media whores who somehow managed to miss the photo of Trent Lott grinning like a baboon on XTC.
I wonder if Shodan means Jesse Ventura or Jesse Helms. The one is merely an ill-mannered lout, while the other is a political pustule.
Still, making a big hairy ass deal out of this as a reason to vote for Coleman is like electing a man on the basis of table manners.
Truth be told, I don’t know squat about Coleman, and I don’t know anybody who does, I would have voted for Wellstone rather than voting against Coleman. But somehow he has managed to make Garrison Keillor dislike him, and that takes some doing. (Salon has the piece, but its Premium, so I haven’t read more than the opening).