What can Dems extort from Trump in exchange for the wall?

Which European country do you think would [del]want[/del] take him?

As for Miller, I see in his future aviator sunglasses, a Hawaiian shirt, a suitcase full of cash, a bungalow in Honduras, and the knowledge that if he returns to the US he’ll be imprisoned for life.

A very easy legislative thing that Democrats have not talked about at all for some reason is overturning that recent Obamacare ruling. It could (AFAIK) be done with a single line of text severing (or just flat-out repealing) the individual mandate. It’s very easy and comports with what Republicans pretend to believe, so it should be added to the pile.

Hungary and Poland. Autocrats support autocrats.

I also kind of want to see if he could be conned into supporting DC statehood. Bait him with comments about how no President since Eisenhower has gotten to change the flag, and how there would be a Trump Star but no Obama Star.

Those are good, but I’d add support for letting refugees in, the way it has been traditionally done.

Ha!

I understand Saudi Arabia takes in fallen despots.

OMG, he would totally fall for this. Why not go for Puerto Rico, too?

Roger that.

I think they should threaten a resolution that the President of the United States must eat food prepared in the White House kitchen when in residence. It’s a safety concern after all.

No more 1/4 pounders without pickles and extra ketchup.

If you must negotiate with a toddler, make sure it’s about something they understand.

I agree with whoever said RTFirefly wins the thread. This is genius. Even better, it’s realistic.

Extremely stupid, but pretty much harmless-works for me.
Washington DC
Puerto Rico
Guam
New Mexico(yeah, I know…but there’s a good chance he doesn’t :D)

In this particular case, as others have said, it is mostly because Trump said it was his fault on national television. But in general, its because its generally the Republicans who are trying to upset the status quo. In this time as in other times the Democrats would be perfectly willing to pass a clean spending bill and continuing resolution that keeps the government open. Its the Republicans who want to put things like the wall, or defunding planned parenthood, or defunding the ACA etc. So one side is holding the government hostage until their demands are met, while the otherside wants the hostages released but is unwilling to give into the demands of the hostage takers.


I’d gladly take that offer, but I can’t imagine Trump going for it. Trump doesn’t really care personally one way or another about the wall, he just knows he will look bad to his base if he doesn’t get it. HR1 on the other hand which will put an ethics spotlight on the whitehouse, would affect him personally. While it is possible to conceive something that Trump would exchange of give up on the wall, there is absolutely nothing that would convince him to pass HR1, no matter what the political costs.

If you want to go outside of Europe, there is always the Philippines also.

Ooh! Ooh! OK, that, then he has to resign and move to Scotland or Monaco or somewhere.

No. You gave a factual reason why you thought it was an impasse. And I proved your factual reason wrong. It is always possible to negotiate with someone who is dishonest: you just have to cash the check before you give them what they want.

Let me give an example. Let’s go wild and say we want LGBT treated as a suspect class in exchange for the Well. The House adds this to the shutdown reversal bill. The Senate passes it because Trump says he will pass it. Trump then can either sign it and thus cannot renege, or he doesn’t sign it, and he doesn’t get the government funded.

There is no trust issue. We worked around it.

You can continue to personally believe something that is counterfactual, but the facts are that you can in fact negotiate with an untrustworthy opponent. Your claim otherwise is false.

I might agree if Trump were capable of understanding that the law would hurt him. But I’m not sure he would be, without someone helping him. (He sure didn’t figure out that the existing laws could hurt his corruption.) And would Republicans be willing to tell him that it would hurt him, thus admitting Trump is corrupt?

I’m not saying he will definitely accept it: we’re assuming a desperate Trump for the purposes of this hypothetical. But I think it’s a nice juicy steak to hold out in front of him. “We’ll put the Wall funding in HR1 if you will agree to sign it.”

He may not care about the Wall itself, but he does care about being seen to win the fight on the Wall. And this would allow him to sell a win to the base. If he’s desperate enough, and thinks he’s legally untouchable enough, he could do it.

A nice, well done steak with catsup.
Oh, the horror!

No, no, no. Mexico. THEN we can build a very special wall. “Donald who?”