Here, UltraVires, I hope this helps.
No-It is just that the reasons that have been given do not need your approval.
That is not the definition of bigotry.
Bigotry is intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
Everybody here who is deprecating conservatives is engaged in bigotry.
Irony.
Where did that extremely vague and incredibly overreaching definition come from?
Wait… are you saying that hating someone due to the color of their skin is not bigotry?
So Trump is a bigot against all Democrats, Liberals and Progressives?
Maybe you need to rethink that attempted definition.
I think the implication is that, since supposedly everyone is a bigot about everything, it must be okey dokey to be a bigot.
Dictionary.
That’s prejudice.
I think I’ll need a cite for that little gem.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
“Definition of bigot
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance”
Notice the “especially” part…
Many words have multiple definitions. Including bigotry:
“strong, unreasonable ideas, esp. about race or religion”
“the fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life”
“Characteristic qualities of a bigot: (especially religious or racial) intolerant prejudice, opinionatedness, or fanaticism; fanatic intolerance.”
Scylla’s definition is accurate, and so are these.
I’ll note, Scylla, that you still haven’t responded to the timeline of the government shutdown of Dec-Jan 18-19, which demonstrates factually that the Democratic House passed a unanimous and bipartisan Senate funding bill which included border security funding, contarary to your assertions. Do the facts of that history interest you at all? I remember that you used to be very interested in facts for discussions like this one. Hopefully, you still are.
I figured, so I went word for word from google.
Google bigotry and you will get word for word that definition.
You said it was from the dictionary. Google isn’t a dictionary, nor does it claim that its quick search result is the only definition. I cited the Merriam-Webster Definition. Any comments on that?
And only that definition?
No. I see the title And OP of the thread. Anybody who endorses that is too far down the partisan rabbit hole to merit sincere discussion. I see a double standard. I don’t see a standard applied evenly. I don’t see respect for differing opinions. I don’t see good faith.
I’ve been in a version of this thread 4-5 times on this and other boards. Different targets, but the threads are all the same.
Every time I participate I make the same stupid mistake. I try to point out the fallacy of assuming that a member defines the group, of confirmation bias and cherry picking, I try to point out examples of the same thing occurring from their own side. Inevitably, they miss the point and just try to list more bad things about the other side while attempting to explain away the examples thrown up against them.
Some people just do not have the capability or the willingness to understand differing viewpoints. They would rather condemn their opponents than engage them.
Beating up on conservatives on a message board like this is inherently cowardly. There are like what 4-5 conservatives here? Nobody of good faith, intellectual courage or conviction would bother doing so.
If you think your stance is true and worthwhile, bring it out there to a Republican message board and argue it there? See how it holds up. See who you can convince. See what arguments that come back at you that are not possible in this environment. Test your idea and see how it goes.
The belief you are espousing is small and ugly and demeaning to yourself.
My Attempting engage it beyond an expression of contempt is a mistake.
I would feel the exact same way (and have) on a right leaning message board attacking liberals in a similar fashion.
I would feel the exact same way about white people talking shit about minorities in their safe little group.
I would feel the exact same way about a group of high school kids in a locker room talking vile and suggestive shit about girls.
That is how I feel about what you are doing and contributing to in this thread.
So no. I am not interested.
Context, dear Mod.
Andy was insistent on his definition (which between you and is really closer to prejudice than bigotry though I concede synonymous overlap between the terms)
He said:
“f that’s not a hard and fast enough definition for you, then that’s tough.”
So I have him a hard and fast definition that wasn’t made up on the spot.
That it was dripping with irony is a bonus.
Your definition wasn’t dripping with irony-it was just vague and self-serving.
You’d be the expert on that.
Yeah, I got the context, thanks. You asked him what definition of bigotry he was using, and he gave you an answer. You responded with a different definition of bigotry - one he clearly wasn’t using - as if that meant a single fucking thing. Yeah, there’s a definition of bigotry that applies to political opposition. So what? That’s not the definition andy was using. It’s not the definition anyone in this thread is using. You’re only bringing up that definition because you’re trying to equate judging someone on the content of their character, versus judging them for the color of their skin.