I’m wonderin’? How is this not in the pit? How does this thread exist at all? This could be misunderestamated as some serious racist shit!
Also, the question was answered upthread already. 
There’s also the white pride culture, but I’m basing that solely on Stormfront.org
Yeah. In Russia.
That’s not wrong.
In our defense, we find that bluntness is *conductive *to cooperation and selflessness. Ignoring niceties, speaking your mind, not deferring to people and occasionally shouting is how you get shit done.
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Which reminds me, military culture is what’s being described in the thread title.
Yep. As much as a loathe constant appeals to cultural relativism, it does seem relevant here.
Here in China many things that people say and do seem rude to me as a Westerner.
But in many cases, that’s not how the locals seem to see it, and people don’t feel slighted by these things.
So there is no intent of causing offense or annoyance.
You don’t know much about English people if you think bad queuing is at all representative. I know you said subsets, but still…
Anyone else reading this in the voices of Leo and Inez Wong?
Heck, the English are the world champions of queuing. Author George Mikes remarked that “an Englishman, even if he is alone, forms an orderly queue of one”.
Southern Culture On The Skids. Kinda by definition.
I had a lot of trouble deciding whether to post it that way or not. It looks so horribly racist, and yet at the same time it’s an actual transcript of a “conversation” I had with a woman while I was trying to be her mom’s nurse. I do think that part of my difficulty with that sort of situation is the broken English - it makes already blunt statements feel even blunter to do away with verbs and articles. And so that’s why I decided to leave it in “racist speak” - because that’s part of why it feels “the most blunt/rude/selfish”.
I totally grok that what she said and how she said it is acceptable in their culture, and that if I was meeting them in their social setting, I would be rude because I’d appear uninterested in them and their lives, or something. She wasn’t being rude by their cultural norms; she’s certainly not the only one of her countrywomen to speak to me in such a way. That’s exactly why their *culture *feels rude to me, not just that particular lady.
She was rude to you, I think, because her society is largely deferential to elders - which means that people feel they can get away with saying anything to their juniors.
In a way, just as an armed society is supposedly a polite society, a rude society can also be a polite society, if the rudeness is egalitarian enough. Where I come from, people mostly know not to talk that way to those younger than them, because the kids will give as good as they get.
Indians can be like that, too. And it’s worse if you’re a woman. Expect to get groped a little while you are in that line. There’s a reason my cousins never let me do the buying if it was crowded. But far worse are the grannies, who will step on your foot and elbow you and act all frail when you look at them, and then shove past you and grab the last mango.
I’ve had some problems with Chinese immigrants too. My SO is of Chinese ancestry. His parents and family are very modern, but some of their extended friends are really rude and blunt. Alessan actually makes a good point about the age thing; that happens in Indian culture too. You can tell anyone younger than you that they are so fat but not your elders. (But it’s perfectly acceptable to shove Grandpa in a corner with a bowl of rice gruel.)
Southerners in the States - they are just the nicest, nicest people, when you are just visiting. I mean, sweet as pie! Then you move in, and you realize…well. I don’t want to start that kerfluffle!
That sounds like my white-bread parents. 
Sounds a bit like Minnesota nice.
Stereotypes are of course an extreme simplification at best. But they aren’t always wrong.
To take one example, the stereotype of cooperation and community-mindedness is supported by the aftermath of the 2011 tsunami, in which large amounts of cash (the equivalent of tens of millions of dollars) were found by individuals and turned over to the authorities in an attempt to get it back to its rightful owners. Contrast this with incidents in the US in which armored trucks have accidentally spewed cash all over the road, with only a tiny fraction being returned - despite the obvious identity of the rightful owner.
Suppose a similar disaster befell some other nation/culture, with vast quantities of personal wealth strewn about the landscape. How would local civilians respond? Would we expect to see a major effort to return such wealth, or would “finders, keepers” be the rule of the day?
Honestly, though, with a lot of Chinese/Korean people, it’s not just that they’re used to asking questions that Westerners would consider rude - it’s that they are aware that Westerners think it’s rude and ask them anyway, because honey badger don’t care.
I have to say, though, that customer service on KAL and Asiana airplanes is far nicer than any Western airline I’ve been on.
Oh, a dude on the metro tried to cop a feel of my then-wife once. She’d memorized some Arabic phrase that’s supposed to shut those guys down, and when I made her aware of what was about to happen*, she whipped around and spat it at him like a curse. He slithered away like he’d been caught farting in the mosque.
*It was actually quite comical how his little ass-grabbing claw sloooooooooowly crept toward her bottom.
Hey I’m Scandinavian! Who knew! Ok, mongrel of miscellaneaous Euro descent for several centuries, but what I’m hearing here makes the place sound heavenly…or Valhallaly I suppose.
I have seen many Roma people in Hungary and Romania. By default they are loud, aggressive and indifferent to those who disapprove. Are they rude? Relative to the locals, absolutely. Relative to themselves - probably not. That’s just their norm.
Hang on, I may not have been clear in my original post but I am English, which may well explain my astonishment at these (other english) group’s behaviour and my own dislike of queue etiquette-infringement. The logic of my argument took me to a strange place which I choose to believe is specific to this little cultural offshoot of (probably) Hassidic Jews.
Green Bean would that behaviour be a specific cultural trait for them or have I just been very unlucky?
Yep, some common themes are emerging. I’ll agree that Chinese and Koreans are the most blunt. As for rudeness, I have to go with Israelis. I used to work in a youth hostel that had guests from all over the world, and the Israelis stood out, unfortunately.
I’ll give an honorary mention for rudeness to Canadians. They’re not the rudest, but they have the starkest gap between stereotype/self-perception and reality in this regard. A Canadian will spit in your face then tell you how polite he is.
And to inject some positivity into this thread, New Zealanders are the nicest. 
This is interesting … why relate cultural quirks to the very same quirky culture? There have been landmark violent cultures, but what use is it to say “the Spartans or the Huns seem violent, but within their violent culture, it’s the norm”? Duh, they’re violent, or rude or arrogant (the French). Who cares if “that’s just their culture”?
And when they are tourists, if they are rude, or in the case of the Huns, rape and pillage during holiday, is that just their “norm”?