What did the holocaust cost to the German war effort?

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@mlees

I don’t think we disagree in general, but I would like to explain that remark a little more.

The Nazis weren’t all that connected until 1928ish, after some impressive (for them) wins in local elections and gaining seats in the Reichstag. They usually got less than 5% (iirc) of the vote, nationally, before that time, and thus seen as a fringe group.

What I mean by “sincere” is that the Nazis never compromised on their beliefs, and generally refused to merge with other nationalist parties (and dilute or change their message, vague as it was… this was due to Hitlers stubborness & mania at control of the Nazi party.), or to form political alliances of convenience that made them appear to be contradicting themselves.

Many national level parties would form voting blocks with other parties in order to try to push various legislation through the Reichstag, and thus “share the blame” if something doesn’t work out right. (The Nazis were pretty good at that kind of blame game, too.)

In general, the Nazis seemed to be the ultimate extreme “party of NO” (on the national level policies), always looking for ways to discredit the parties and personalities who happened to hold office(s) at whichever particular time was in question. Hitler’s motto appeared to be “always agitate!”.

The NSDAP, surely knew how to play the political game at the time and gained important industrial support/followers even early on. Which was one reason, why the conservatives choose to ally with the NSDAP.

@Little_Nemo

I’m not a German speaker but my understanding is there are two broad groups of dialect in German: High German and Low German. High German is spoken in Austria, Bavaria, and western Germany. Low German is spoken in northern Germany. So Hitler might have sounded like a native speaker in Munich or Cologne but not in Hamburg or Berlin.

Slangs, dialects, regional differences – that’s all. Basically the language is the same. The written language is defiantly understandable vice-versa. The closest way I can describe it’s like British English vs Irish English vs US English.

No, Hitler would not have sounded like a native Cologne person. However, as a native German speaker, I can tell you that Hitle did talk very straight forward German, which was understandable in all parts of Germany at the time and still is very much easy to understand to every German.
A person in Hamburg can hardly understand the difference between an Austrian, Bavarian or a Badener, they all sound similar to them.
In a way, a US person can tell if someone’s from Texas or Boston etc.

@DagNation

If you read the first few posts of the other thread you may see the humor in that statement.

My German friends tell me that they can barely understand the Germans from the far side of the country, so I just made that part up. Besides, I think the time machine is a much bigger chalenge than what language I need to learn

Let me know, when you got this Zeit Maschine working please.