Sorry about that, MC. I meant terrorist attacks which killed 4~5 thou at one time.
And the world community, to include the United States, did “bat an eye” over that. Or did I merely imagine the aid provided?
9-11 was the biggest terrorist attack, but I don’t think that was what Zadagka meant.
Compared to 9-11 the coverage that the Izzmit earthquake (one of the largest diasters in modern times) got was tiny.
Nope, that isn’t what I meant. My point was that the WTC attacks stand out because of the “massive” loss of life, but the only reason this stands out is because it happened at one time and one place, instead of spread out over time and constant conflict. The “4000-5000 people who have died in the last decade” refers to dozens of countries in Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America where thousands of people die each year without a terrible amount of notice, because it is a dozen here, twenty there.
Keep in mind that there were 20,000 total murders in the United States in 1996. (US DoJ Bureau of Justice Statistics)
Actually, I now intend to start using that. And I intend to use “Happy Meeting for Warming Globe” when talking about Kyoto.
September the 11th seems to be the most common usage where I live (London).
Also heard/read:
11 September
9/11
World Trade Centre [attacks]
the Twin Towers
In India. 9/11.
Although, we would have usually referred to it as 11/9. or perhaps 11th September, but I guess the over exposure of “9/11”
sunk in to be referred to as the “9/11” attacks.
Or perhaps the WTC attacks/incident.
Careful, The Petronas in Kaula Lampur are also referred to as The Twin Towers.
Sorry for the hijack, but there was a small relation between Nazi Germany and some Muslim extremists. For example, Hitler supported the Palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem in making a pure Arab Palestine, and also sponsored an entirely Muslim division of the SS constituted solely of ethnic Bosnians. Maybe Nazi ideology considered them unfit for living, but politics certainly make strange bedfellows. There were even pro-Nazi parties in wartime Iraq and Egypt, if that’s any indication. Then there was Khomeini’s infamous denial of the Holocaust, and also the Austrian neo-Nazi leader who is a convert to Islam. Even in Nazism abroad, such as George Lincoln Rockwell’s American Nazi Party, alliances were formed with radical Muslims. Rev. Elijah Muhammad and Rockwell formed a amiable friendship prior to Rockwell’s assassination.
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In Spain it´s mostly referred to as 11-S (“once-ese”).
“strong alliance and affinity between Muslim leaders and the Nazis”
I said this and have been meaning to quote some references but never got around to it.
Yes, for example, Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (or some such) issued a joint statement saying that the Nazis and the Moslems share a hatred of Jews. I read it in the Israel Arab Reader. For another example, Anwar Sadat worked for the German underground in his youth.
Nazis may have believed in Aryan (or what dictionaries call “Indo-European”) superiority, but that didn’t mean there weren’t some surprising alliances. Remember the Axis? The Japanese teamed up with these “white supremacists”. How this is strategic mystifies me, but they seemed pretty serious about it.
A few inaccuries there, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was not motivated by any notions of racial purity, but out of the fear that the zionists would disposess the Arabs in Palestine (not that that justifies his actions).
If your talking about the 1941 attempted coup in Iraq, I think it is a bit of a strecth to call it pro-Nazi, anti-British would be more accurate. The Nazis funded and supported many such rebellious factions throughout British ruled places, for example they even (indirectly) funded a few IRA operations.
Also when you say Austrian neo-nazi leader who converted to Islam, which one is this? The Austrian neo-nazis want to throw all the Muslims out of Austria and their leader Jorge Haider, despite visting Sadam Hussein is virutently racist towards Arabs.
The Nation of Islam, despite what they may tell you ARE NOT MUSLIMS, they are forbidden from performing the Hajj and entering Mecca as only Muslims are allowed into the holy city. It is precisley because of the Nation of Islams racists beliefs that they are not considered Muslims.
As others have said, September 11 is typically used in the UK but several other expressions, such as 9/11, are easily understood too. Not 11-9 though – that wouldn’t mean anything.
Yes, of course it would be remembered, not only because of the subsequent military activity, and not only because there were many British casualties either. Some incidents are so extreme that they cannot be forgotten – Waco and the Oklahoma bombings have already been mentioned, but there are plenty more that will be remembered longer than those. Chernobyl? Hiroshima?
As TheLoadedDog as said, the emergengy phone number here is 999, but 911 is so familiar through film and TV that the authorities were considering changing it. Some polls suggested that kids already thought our number was 911. I wonder what kind of conversations Porsche cars have been having during the past year about how they should change the marketing of their own 911, especially in the USA?
In what way is that relevant to this discussion? Nobody calls it “Jo Moore Day”.
It was relevant to the last paragraph of the post above it.
There’s a British biographer of Saddam Hussein who claims that the uncle who raised Saddam was a card carrying Nazi.
The Austrian Neo-Nazis is Ahmed Huber. Another factoid: German neo-Nazis volunteers fought in the Six Day War against Israel: the Hilfskorp Arabien.