It’s very common for people get confused between native and naturalized.
Also to add: there’s a part of southern Ontario that’s further south than bits of northern California.
what is the difference?
Here’s how it got the name:
….Grand Island” came from the French name “La Grande Ile,” meaning the large or great island in the Platte River which was formed by a narrow channel branching off the Platte River approximately 28 miles upstream from the present city of Grand Island and rejoining the main river about 12 miles down- stream from the city …
And you’re right, not grand and certainly not any grander in the past decade or so. Handy spot to refuel, visit a nice rest stop or grab fast food if you’re zooming east or west on I 80. Wave at me as you go past Lincoln.
It may not be true for the really tall, skinny ones, but the shorter, fatter ones make great rat nests. At least to hear the pest control people tell it.
If phone wires run past one - woohoo! rat highway!
I’ll take a shot and folks can correct me. Native means they evolved in the area or migrated in a long time ago. They fit into the ecosystem. Naturalized means they were brought in or otherwise followed humans who moved in. It sort of implies that they’ve fitted themselves into the ecosystem, rather than being Invasive. They might compete with other members of the ecosystem, but they haven’t totally wiped out other species.
Since palm trees are mostly planted along roadways or in residential yards, they may mostly be competing with other naturalized, foreign, species.
I just Googled it:
- Biology
(of a plant or animal) having become established and living wild in a region where it is not indigenous.
If the definition requires that a species be “living wild”, I’m not sure palm trees in California would be considered naturalized, since the vast majority of them were planted by some human as part of the landscaping, they’re not just growing wild.
Native means humans didn’t bring it there. Occasionally you find arguments about whether or not a plant spread through wind or bird after humans entered a region.
Strictly speaking, “Naturalized” means humans brought it there, and it’s now thriving and spreading on its own. I disagree that naturalized means it’s “fitting in” with the ecosystem. Naturalizing is what invasive plants do so well. But I don’t think it’s a technical term with an exact definition, and I suspect different schools and groups might use it either way exclusively. I was taught that about 10% of all naturalized plants will over-thrive (become invasive.)
Sometimes a plant naturalizes in a different habit than its original habitat. For example, it might be treelike in its lush tropical home, but bushy in a drought ridden area. As long as it can set seed and spread, it is still naturalized.
The tall skinny ones are for parrot nests.
And Christmas lights.
Are you sure it’s not Luxembourgeoisie?
This gets my vote. LOL!
For what it’s worth, Luxembourgish in Luxembourgish is Lëtzebuergesch.
[TOM]
Kropermann is a monster from Luxembourg
[CROW]
Who’s actually the size of Luxembourg
[TOM]
He crushed the whole country of Luxembourg
[TOM, CROW, AND JONAH]
Because he is the size of Luxembourg
Heh, I forgot about that.
There’s a statue of the Kropemann (not Kroperman) in downtown Redange. You can see a picture of it here. The name literally means “hook man” and reflects his habit of snagging unwary children and dragging them down into the river in which he lives, where they are eaten.
a little snicker and a faint memory of us kids being dragged by our school to some “event” where we 2nd graders had to recite some poetry in the conext of the 750 years anniversary of the local church … probably 40 years ago
And the small town (7k people) is actually some 1000 years older than the church … but that date/event somewhat stuck with me.
central european re-plant to S-America …
- S-america’s perception is (as many other locations, I learned in this thread) highly influenced by H-wood…
- Huge parts of S-America are not tropical at all, and way more south/central/northern european or US-west-coastish (with inverted signs) … its quite often cold here (think San Francisco wet/cold at the coast) and generally rather dry (S-Calia style)
- after living half my life here 2 things still throw me off: 1.) x-mas with heat still feels wrong and 2.) how huge the distances here are in S-Am …
You can fly N-S in Chile for 8+ hours and you find you never left the country … you put the northern tip of Chile into Canada, and the southern tip would still be in S-America (Columbia)… and Chile is by no means one of the large countries in S-Am
Chile contains only 4% of the land mass of the continent. It is extremely unique in its geographic shape: 2670 miles north-to-south, but only 217 miles east-to-west at its widest point, 40 miles east-to-west at its narrowest point.
Now you’re just shaming long and thin countries. ;-D
“Chile: Preventing Argentina from Enjoying the Pacific Ocean Since 1818”
Hat tip: Our Dumb World
Of course not. Traffic jams and movie stars.