Huh?
Please explain what I said that was so unreasonable.
Yes. And it is in the news stories; this thread well documents them. The school administration delegated authority to one assistant principal who ignored all signs that a serious situation was forming and likely made the shooter feel he was morally wrong for not more favorably accepting a gay boy’s advances.
This is a situation that escalated for Larry King for five years. For five years the schools knew and had documented disruptive behavior from King, and yet the end result, two days before the shooting, Brandon McInenarny watched an openly lesbian assistant principal wag her finger disapprovingly at him after he indicated a rejection of King’s prancing in high heels and parading for him.
It’s very clear that Larry King’s behavior had focused on Brandon McInernay toward the end of his life and that this had gone on for more than a mere couple days, as Ibn would have us believe.
Click on all the links in the thread.
I just outlined the major theme of the defense’s argument when Brandon was tried for a hate crime. It was well shown and there is a lot of evidence that Brandon didn’t do this out of hate for gays. He did it because he felt he had little recourse but to do it because the assistant principal made him think that he had to accept King focusing on him or he’d be in trouble or disapproved-of.
This argument was well supported with evidence. We’re not in the same position, but we do know that jurors ina better position than us could not convict Brandon of a hate crime, and we know why: Because misbehavior doesn’t count if you’re gay in that California school system.
Ibn & David, I think one HUGE mitigating little factor in this is that Dawn King, Larry’s mom, called the school and asked officials to help her tone down her son’s behavior in school, especially towards Brandon. This was four days before the shooting.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/brandon-mcinerney-school-criticized-by-both-sides-in-gay-teen-slaying-case.html
From article:
Both of these kids had to deal with child services and domestic crap in their homes, but if Larry’s mom was asking to help control her son’s behavior, it’s pretty clear Larry was pushing.
And this still does NOT excuse Brandon from executing a classmate in class for everybody to see. I think Brandon deserves jail, but this plea agreement seems like poor lawyers handled to whole damn thing-- the prosecution with their cockamamey theory of white supremacy and the defense willing to fold.
It’s most likely that justice won’t be served in this situation, whatever “justice” means to people.
My take is that his family injected hate into his brain against anyone different than his social prescribed role, in such high intensity that the kid thought it was his destiny to kill another human being, a child, that seemed to be abhorrent and unfitting to his perceived accepted behavior.
His parents should be in jail. Unless they can prove they’re not the problem.
Joshua 7: The Story of Ai. 
Both kids had some poor domestic life, but the parents didn’t make anyone gay or put a gun into anyone’s hands. If there was such a large amount of hatred injected as you say, why did it take five years of teasing to coax Brandon into premeditated murder?? If it was injected, kid woulda been able to shoot at age 9.
Not really.
Human brains develop up to the late 20’s.
A 9 year old has no concept of morality, they just imitate what they witness in their surroundings.
The kid conceived of his need to “kill” a pariah and an undesirable only because his social surroundings imposed such hate on those “undesirables”, that he considered his duty to fulfill the same discriminating destiny.
There’s no doubt his parents are Republicans, if not only conservative.
Brandon’s real last name might be Palin! Or Bachmann!! 
I don’t see how a young homosexual in a high school environment who flaunts his rights to be a pariah. I just wish they could’ve worked this out without a murder in a classroom.
You realise that’s a subset of the same line of bullshit the prosecution tried and failed to push, right?
If the kid has anti-social drives of the killing kind, then he should rot in jail.
I don’t think he has. It’s more likely his immediate social environment taught him who he has to hate and kill in order to “feel” “justified”.
Cue religion.
I must have read ten news stories blogs etc., yesterday about this incident and none of them mentioned religion. I guess you just wanna take this thread where any thread mentioning a gay person goes–into how bad religion is.
Well, Larry King just didn’t die because of religion. He died because another kid got fed up being his target.
But that’s ok, other ideological supporters have tried the same stuff that the prosecution tried in the trial and failed to show, the “administration-didn’t-know” b.s., and the “his-family’s-hate-made-him-do-it” angle too, so I suppose it’s inevitable that the old standby gets drug into it to distract from how awfully the gay characters in this tragedy acted.
Religion just isn’t a part of this story, best I can tell.
Free speech?
Jesus, sometimes I think that I live in a completely different world that some people. We had dress codes in school. Boys wear X, girls wear Y. There is no fucking civil right for a boy to wear high heels and a dress. Hell, there is no civil right for a girl to wear high heels and dresses. Schools can mandate uniforms if they want.
This kid wore this type of clothing to be confrontational to other students who he goddamned well knew didn’t like it. And what does the authority figure who’s duty it is to maintain order and discipline do?
She tells the student that his right of free speech is less important than the imaginary right of cross-dressing. Think of a typical 14 year old male. Would he react well to being teased every day about how he and the cross dressing kid were boyfriend-boyfriend? That’s straight up terrible bullying and the administration did nothing to help him except say that HE was wrong.
I’m not saying he should have shot the kid, but it is a definite mitigating factor.
The worst of the bullies here, because she was in authority, was assistant principal Joy Epstein. Other than the shooter. He was a bully too.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
What if I said:
News: Bombing kills twelve people
Me: There’s no doubt the bomber was a Muslim.
Ah, sanity returns. Thank you. And you too, David42.
Wait, how was he a bully?
Well, he murdered a much smaller boy for the crime of revealing that he had crush on him and for asking him to be his valentine.
I don’t see that as bullying as much a single act of violence. Maybe he ws a bully, but I haven’t seen anything to support that.
It’s blowing my mind (although I don’t know why I’m surprised) that some of you are seriously blaming the victim here, as if it’s ok to murder someone because he made a kid uncomfortable and cross-dressed. What year is it again?
Who the hell is saying that?
A year in which sexually harassing another student gets a “Boys will be boys” response from the assistant principal?