What the hell is with your hostility? I didn’t attack you, I didn’t say anything negative to or about you, I just started a fun discussion about freaking shorts. JFC.
You are right. I did, in fact, not mention that you were saying this was before the Dukes of Hazzard (probably based on my trashy home town, right? :rolleyes:). But certainly, many of those answering in this thread were around back then just like you were and would have mentioned if it was something they had heard. Now, I’m not discrediting your experience- it’s yours to have. You’re not wrong. I was just surprised because I had never heard anyone refer to Bermudas as anything but. . .Bermudas. This includes old TV shows and movies I’ve seen, books, etc. Like I said, I accept I might be wrong. That’s why I started the poll- to see if the experiences of others are similar to mine.
Now, really, stop the personal attacks in a fucking thread about shorts.
Not in Oklahoma in the 1970’s. We called them “cut-offs” and my Mom used to make them for me every spring.
I’ve never heard anyone call cut-offs “bermudas”. Even as kids in the 70’s we knew that Bermuda shorts were the dorky long shorts that old people wore.
Wow, did Diosa pee in your coffee this morning or something? It’s not her fault if people you knew used the wrong term for short shorts. Notice how in the Cafe Soc thread, no one has backed you up? That’d be because you’re wrong.
Another kid from the 70’s checking in. At least in the midwest cutoffs were cutoffs weather long or short. The short ones that we now call DD’s were still cutoffs and even guys wore them. Maybe not quite as short, but I remember the tips of the pockets sticking out.
Bermudas on the other hand were what my Dad wore and were really uncool. They came to the knee and had a hem. They were also not ever denim.
You keep saying it is normal to call DD’s Bermudas but so far not a single other person has experienced this. Not saying it wasn’t your experience, but apparently not wide spread.
I am old enough to remember businessmen shamelessly walking the streets of American cities, wearing snap-brim fedoras, sport coats & ties, bermuda shorts (usually in madras print), and knee socks.
I still think knee socks look good with shorts, but lack the courage to attempt them.
Bermuda shorts are dressy, tailored, knee-length shorts in many fabrics, but never, ever denim (until some marketers started calling them that recently.) Dads and Grandpas wore Bermudas. With socks, and dress shoes. No one under the age of 30 wore Bermudas unless they were tragically uncool. Maybe in some tiny pocket of the country the term bermuda became a catch-all term for any kind of short pant, but Cut-offs were jeans that had gotten too short that you cut off to make into shorts of any length. And girls that wore tiny shorts with inseams of less that two inches were wearing hot pants or short-shorts. Regular shorts were any length your mom approved of.
Actually, when I think of Bermuda shorts as we knew them in the '60s, I think plaid. Or madras. But I guess technically the long denim ones could qualify.
Whenever we cut off jeans, we made 'em a lot shorter, and called them either cutoffs or shorts.
Below the knee, they were “pedal pushers.” A bit longer, almost to the ankle and tapered, “capris.”
Well. I came in too late everyone took my answer. Now, I just have to become an echo. Like everyone else, I say bermuda shorts are NOT cut offs. They are dressy pants in short form.
The type of shorts known as Daisy Dukes now is not now, nor was it in the past, known as “Bermuda shorts” in any place I ever lived, pre-70s. These do not include Bakersfield but do include Los Angeles, Texas, and Oklahoma. “Bermudas” were what old men wore, often with sandals and black knee socks. “Short shorts” and, if denim, “cutoffs” were what luscious and savvy young women wore, never dreaming the day would come when they, too, would have to make do with Bermudas.
Knee length, not cut-offs. When I was in high school we talked about Bermuda shorts and Jamaica shorts. IIRC, Jamaica shorts were the shorter of the two.
I was only a wee lad in the 70s, so take it for what it’s worth, but “Bermuda shorts” to me have always meant hemmed, knee-length shorts. I don’t think of them as being made from denim, but I suppose they can be. I have never heard anyone refer to cut-offs/Daisy Dukes as “Bermuda shorts.” That must be a very regionalized usage.