See the libs always want to label everyone who opposes immigration from the 3rd world as “racist”.
Look, many poor countries like Haiti need our help but we cant just open up our doors and let them all move here. We have problems of our own and we already take in millions of immigrants each year. We are full.
Look, I know there are stories like how if there is no more room at the table one should build a bigger table to accommodate the poor and hungry but sometimes there is no more room left to build a table.
Obama did try and limit immigration but his party demanded open borders. If we elect Biden he will tear down what little border protections there are and just allow everyone in.
It is democrats who push for sanctuary cities and open borders and support giving benefits to illegals no matter what.
You are giving a wonderful example of the “fallacy of the excluded middle”, Urbanredneck. I’d explain further, but I’ve found that explaining things to the conservative elements gets one labelled as an elitist, and one who looks down on others, rather than one who is honestly trying to explain our point of view.
Anyway.
Please point out which Democratic politicians are advocating completely open borders.
Put it this way. Let’s say that some folks do advocate for what you’re talking about; we’ll call them “Type 1” enthusiasts. And let’s say that some enthusiasts — we’ll call them “Type 2” — have that same open-borders goal but keep from saying so, instead talking up nuance and complexity while advocating for mere decriminalization and a path to citizenship, but all while pretty much thinking like “Type 1” folks.
And let’s briefly skip the “Type 3” and “Type 4” to note that some folks — “Type 5”, as it were — in fact mean what they say about nuance and complexity and so on, and aren’t out for open borders or something trivially different from open borders; might they vote for a “Type 2” politician, a guy who pretty much just has “Type 1” goals but who pretty much just talks like a “Type 5” voter?
No, just the ones who say racist things – like Trump, Bannon, etc.
We’re not even close to full, but no prominent Democrat is advocating to literally “open up our doors”.
There’s an enormous amount of room in the country – “we are full” is the bullshit and laughably counterfactual justification used by Hitler and many more for monstrous policies.
Sanctuary cities are good policy for law enforcement because it’s important that all residents, even undocumented ones, see police as allies when they are in trouble rather than enemies to be feared. If undocumented immigrants are unwilling to cooperate with police when investigating rapes, murders, etc., then our cities will become less safe because the police will have much more difficulty solving crimes. Since the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are peaceful and hard-working residents, this makes logical sense and opposition to these policies is based on misunderstanding and ignorance. As to “benefits to illegals”, that’s mostly nonsense, as undocumented immigrants generally contribute significantly more money to the economy than they take from taxpayers, since they have to pay many taxes but take very few benefits.
Wherever you’re getting your information on this issue is failing you. Blaming immigrants is a tried and true rhetorical practice in history for justifying bad behavior and shifting blame from the powerful to the powerless. Hundreds of millions have fallen for this bullshit through history over hundreds of years, but it’s still bullshit propaganda. The powerless are not your enemy. The powerless are not to be feared. And they’re not harming our society by any means. By the numbers, they’re helping, and most of these folks would make wonderful American citizens – hard working, decent, honest, etc., and we should welcome the vast majority.
You are looking at this from a stance of “compassion for human beings regardless of what country they were born in”
The Anti-“Sanctuary City” crowd answers like this: The cities become less safe for illegal immigrants. Maybe they should go back to their own country then.
Similar to “we shouldn’t lock people up in cages” - ASC crowd: “Then don’t come here if they don’t like it”
Almost any question you have about why people do something is “They don’t care about the people who this negatively affects”
Also, I’m personally baffled by someone who would vote/not vote for someone simply based on “liking” or “not liking” them. Ridiculous.
But that’s false – if rapists and murderers go free because police can’t solve the crimes, then everyone is in more danger. Sanctuary cities = safer cities for everyone.
But if they are only raping and murdering illegal immigrants, then I don’t care. If they don’t want to be raped and murdered, then they should go back to their own country. We shouldn’t even be wasting resources investigating crimes against illegal immigrants, we should just be deporting them.
And if the rapist and/or murderer IS an illegal immigrant, then that just proves my point.
Well, if the power structure that runs the Republican Right truly understands them better, then they must simply not give a damn about them. Possibly the biggest mass con job in human history is the Right convincing the rank and file that they are “one of them” while ceaselessly trying to cut medicare and social security while, at the same time, giving trillions of dollars to the rich and privileged.
It is the democrats who ceaselessly work to increase social programs and the betterment of the common American, certainly not the Republicans. Trump is the poster boy for the rich, corporate fueled Plutocracy that actually runs this country, not the champion of the common American.
None of this matters as long as they can agree on who to blame and hate for the various negative outcomes and situations they find themselves in. Cue: immigrants, liberals, uppity women and minorities.
We could easily handle – and be improved by – about a million immigrants a year, less than .3% of the nation’s population. And if middle America doesn’t like the country’s continuing diversification, well then, fuck middle America.
Your calling Chicago and Detroit and Los Angeles, all sanctuary cities and all run by democrats - SAFE?
On immigration - I wish at least one of the parties would target the owners of the businesses like the meatpacking plants, which willingly hire illegals at lower wages than Americans. A friends Dad worked for years at a KC meatpacking plant until the company was bought out and they rehired all the old employees but only at half their old wages. When they didnt want to come back for so little pay they just brought in illegals.
Will Biden target the people putting Americans out of work and bringing in illegals? Times before I used to support democrats when I they used to support unions and American workers against wealthy business owners but they switched sides and could care less about workers now.
Oh, and its not just the illegals. Many software and tech companies bring in legal workers from places like India who work for less than Americans. Does Biden say anything about that?
Well lets see… over crowded schools. Over crowded highways. Lack of affordable housing. Massive homeless problems. Rural and wilderness areas being overrun. I’m surprised our electrical, water, and sanitation systems can keep up.
But democrats will not be happy until we are as crowded as Japan.