Yeah, but the one episode that everybody remembers.
Not one particular person, but a couple. I attended a performance of “The Mikado” and later mentioned it to a student at university, in the music department no less. She did not know who Gilbert and Sullivan were.
I’m seeing quite a bit of online chatter from people who insist that J. D. Vance couldn’t possibly have been elected, etc. based on name recognition, because THEY had never heard of him, or “Hillbilly Elegy”, movie or book.
Just because that’s YOUR experience doesn’t mean it’s everybody’s.
Those are a couple of names I would expect most folk to have heard before. Especially ANYONE connected w/ a music dept. Seem like plenty of references in popular TV, when someone is going to a musical/play or something.
I know who Gilbert and Sullivan were. However, perhaps we should make a distinction between names we recognize and names we’ve heard before. I’m very bad at remembering names. So, maybe I’ve heard the name Beyonce before, but if asked now, I might say “never heard of her,” simply because I’ve forgotten. (Just an illustration. I actually do have some idea who she is)
Maybe a lot of people who heard the names Gilbert and Sullivan in their lives have simply forgotten that.
I’m not sure I see the need for that distinction. For example, I had the Superbowl on last Feb. Probably heard the names of 50 players. No way I could tell you the backup kicker. But (if only someone would remind me who the teams were), I’m sure I would recognize the names of a couple of the stars. At least enough to say, “Football player, right?”
You mentioned that it would be expected “most folk to have heard before” and referred to many of references in popular TV. I’m just saying that could all be true, and they could still say “never heard of them” when asked about Gilbert and Sullivan. That’s why I’ve “never heard of” many rappers, movie stars, and country music artists. It’s not literally true, as their names are everywhere, but it’s never registered enough to stick in my brain.
The music field is large enough that I can understand that someone could study some aspect of it quite deeply without ever learning of Gilbert & Sullivan.
No teams have a backup kicker.
Clarification: the punter usually is such.
Along with an “emergency kicker.” Some position player who probably last kicked in high school.
Yes, teams have an emergency kicker. No teams have a backup kicker that does nothing except wait until the #1 kicker cannot perform the kicking duties. Same with a backup punter, which also doesn’t exist.
Ndamukong Suh was once an emergency kicker. I would have loved to have seen that in a game.
I agree… I have listened to John Prine since '75 … saw him a few times live, including his very last tour. He still had it, until he didn’t. I miss JP, a lot.
John Fahey, Leo Kottke… David Lindley… there are a lot of peeps that fly low… but are great.
and one of the masters is barley even know outside of is colleagues. Andre’ Segovia.
Fahey not ringing a bell w/o looking it up. Leo Kottke had a couple of albums everyone who was “into music” had to have, but I never cared for them much. DL, likely more “anonymously famous” for the folk he played with. But he has a couple of albums which are on my short list of faves.
The one I’d take exception with is Segovia. With many instruments, I expect many/most people to recognize the person generally accepted as the best/most influential. In fact, it is even somewhat common to hear folk say, “Well, they are no Segovia…” Pablo Casals, I dunno, maybe James Galway and a couple others. Certainly several classical fiddlers. Even if one has never heard them play, I think a reasonably well-informed person would be able to say, “Oh yeah. Classical musician, right? Guitar/cello/flute/violin?”
He’s famous for sure, but the biggest “household name” cellist these days is probably Yo-Yo Ma.
Good call. Known best from Seinfeld, right? 
And Sesame Street:
TBH, I’m surprised at who some of the people I have encountered are who had never heard of J. D. Vance.
Many years ago, back at University, I mentioned liking Gilbert and Sullivan to a classmate.
Her reply : Oh they played one of his songs on the radio this morning.
After a bit of confusion on both sides I worked out that she was thinking of Gilbert O’Sullivan. She did not know that O’s name was an alias, and a pun, and had never heard of the originals.
Speaking of which, I have heard of O’ but I wouldn’t recognize him if I saw him, and can’t name any of his songs.