Hey, you’re the one that brought the original list up again, not me.
Anyways, I thought it was obvious. It’s comparing blacks and felons, and not in a favorable way. Here are some examples of the kerfuffle the headline caused:
And again I ask, do you think that the headline and/or article is racist?
Yes
But not all of us. Some of us believe that charter schools and school vouchers are good ideas.
So, any headline that uses the word “black” is racist?
It is interesting that the orignal headline :“Trump slams voting rights for felons, wants GOP to court black voters” had to be changed by your first link to :“Trump wants GOP to court black voters — then slams voting rights for felons” in order to make the argument that he wanted to make.
The first headline is two different statements, and the only thing that they have together is that Trump talked about both of them, back to back, in the same speech.
The altered headline from your hit piece makes a different statement.
This seems to be a favorite tactic of those on the right these days, misparaphrase something, and then take offense to what your misparaphrasing implies.
Then, you can make that argument. And while I would disagree with it, I think that you could probably make it eloquently enough that it at least makes sense.
Did her responses make sense? When asked it the charter and private schools would be held to the same standards as public schools are, she cold only reply “I support accountability”, as if that is an actual answer.
Do you believe that charter schools and vouchers are a good idea, even if they are implemented poorly, as she is like to do with her experience?
As I think that even when done with the best of intentions, at best you get a few students out of the system that did better than they would have elsewise, while leaving most of the rest of the students to rot behind, if implemented incompetently will likely result in poorer results for all students in public schools across the board, while the wealthy get the taxpayers to subsidize sending their kids to private schools.
I believe CNN altered the headline after the uproar. It was quoted as “Trump wants GOP to Court Black Voters - Then Slams Voting Rights For Felons” here too.
You wouldn’t happened to have picked those two for their opinion because they support Trump, would you?
Kevin Jackson’s sleazy little website., and Joe Concha has done pro-Trump articles for The Hill, RealClearPolitics, and Mediaite.
So you are saying that they acknowledged that there was a problem, then attempted to correct it?
That means you still have nothing, you know.
If that is the case, then I agree that CNN had an insensitive headline.
The fact that they realized it was insensitive, and changed it is being missed by you, as one of the criteria to equate them with brietbart was that the story not be retracted or corrected.
Can you point to any of the “insensitive” headlines from brietbart being changed do to their perception?
I think the headline is still, in its current form, "insensitive"and that the article still reinforces the “blacks are felons” stereotype. In a word, I think it’s still “racist”, at least on par with the racism alleged at Breitbart. I don’t know if you’ve looked closely at the list of headlines that DrCube offered at the top of page 2, but most of them have nothing to do with race and can’t be honestly described as ‘racist’.
So you are sticking with “They do it too!” as an excuse?
I remember when we were discussing the DOJ report on Ferguson, and if I remember correctly you had a great deal of trouble identifying racial bias, even when there was a detailed report describing it to you.
Your racial sensitivities seem to have been amended considerably since that discussion. So congratulations, I guess.
So, I guess this is a good time to ask: did the DOJ report on Ferguson conclude to your satisfaction that there was a significant racial bias in the treatment of black people in Ferguson?
That was the whole fucking point, wasn’t it (see below)?
Bolding mine.
I haven’t read the whole thread, so maybe someone else has made this point, but she has no experience in school, either. She never attended a public school, a state college or university, nor sent her own children to public institutions.
Did you read the article?
But in the same speech here, he again slammed an order by the state’s Democratic governor, Terry McAuliffe, to restore voting rights to some convicted felons who have completed their sentences, a move McAuliffe says could help African-Americans who were disproportionally affected by laws that put lifetime bans on felons.
Do you think the fact that “African-Americans … were disproportionally affected by laws that put lifetime bans on felons” might be relevant? And might in fact be the point of the article, not some undetermined racist motive?
I think your responses pretty much show “they”(CNN) don’t it too, despite the fact that you were the one that brought up the subject of CNN and racism.
He’s not alone, you know. As he pointed out, two pro-Trump bloggers agree with him.
You’re jumping all over the place here.
First you ask me for a racist CNN article, then I give you one and you respond with “So you are sticking with “They do it too!” as an excuse?”. That came across to me as a concession that reasonable people might find the CNN article racist, but then you jump back to ‘they don’t do it’ and “you were the one that brought up the subject of CNN and racism” but you were the one that continued harping on it. Do you want to discuss some of the stupid shit CNN has published or not? Make up your mind.
When I give a couple (out of numerous) accompanying cites, your response was “And again I ask, do you think that the headline and/or article is racist?” That came across, to me as, ‘cites aren’t what matter here, I want your opinion’. I gave it, and add a third cite later and your sarcastic response is “two pro-Trump bloggers agree with him.” Which is it? Do you want to discuss my opinion or the opinions of others? Make up your mind.
I wouldn’t mind discussing facts, but I’m not getting my hopes up.