What happened to Roanoke?

Has anyone uncovered the mystery of Roanoke Island yet? Thats a subject i haven’t heard about in years! :slight_smile:

I assume you mean Oak Island. Check this current thread.

I assume he means the Roanoke colony. The inhabitants disappeared, and the word ‘Croatoan’ was carved in a tree.

Maybe so, but can you link to a current thread? :stuck_out_tongue:

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The OP is referring to the Lost Colony of Roanoke, where a group of settlers on Roanoke Island disappeared without a trace in the 1500’s.

Here is a recent article.

Yes. :stuck_out_tongue:

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

LOL

We had a thread about this a few months ago. I recommended then (and now) Lee Miller’s book Roanoke: Solving the Mystery of the Lost Colony. There’s always been plenty of information about the colony, it’s just rarely presented, and later writers keep quoting those who never examined the available documentation.

The short story: They was screwed over by the British Administration. After what was done to these poor colonists, it’s not surprising they suffered the fate they did. An earnest, well-supported effort this wasn’t:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0142002283/qid=1133533759/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-4136425-8925530?n=507846&s=books&v=glance

Unabashed tourism plug connected with this: If you’re going to be in Hampton Roads or the Outer Banks for business or pleasure, you owe it to yourself to stop and see this on your way.

Hakim Bey had an interesting view of this puzzle. His article “Gone to Croatoan” doesn’t seem to be online in full anymore, but there’s a brief excerpt that catches the gist of it: http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/imagearchive/his3487/lorimer/hakim_bey.html

Roanoake, according to Hakim Bey, was “the very first colony in the New World chose to renounce its contract with Prospero (Dee/Raleigh/Empire) and go over to the Wild Men with Caliban.” America mythologically represented the “occult shadow of wildness” to Europeans, making it attractive to white dissidents to ditch European civilization and take up with the Indians. This reminds me of the pioneers who were captured by Indians and when rescued had to be forcibly returned to white society because they preferred the Indians. The Light in the Forest by Conrad Richter is a fictional version of this kind of very American story.

Also, there was an extremely severe dought during the years of the Colony (1587-1589). Failed crops+unfriendly natives = starvation.

Check out an article summary:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/drought/drght_james.html

Blanton, Dennis B. (one iof the authors of the above article) was one of my professors of archaeology at William & Mary.

What mystery? It’s always been known what happened to the colony. They went to join the Croatoan Indians. They left a message saying where they had gone, and did not use the pre-arranged signal that would indicate any violence. Therefore they left voluntarily, and were welcomed by the Croatoan. There are people livung in the area today who claim ancestry from both Croatoan and colonist.

http://www.geocities.com/bigorrin/lumbee_kids.htm

Every 5 - 10 years somebody goes looking, and bits and pieces of English occupation have been found. The colonists who got left behind didn’t know how to survive in that environment (a wooded sand spit with a hundred million mosquitoes), and they tried to join a friendly tribe. There have always been rumors some survived, mixed with the Algonquians, but there were Euros all over the North American coast by that time. Gosnold in 1602 complains he can’t find a place to anchor that doesn’t already have a Euro ship, off the coast of Mass. he meets a French shallop crewed by Indians, in 1608 John Smith is saved by an Indian with a full beard, a hundred miles inland from the sea they meet a blonde-haired boy with blue eyes…

The lost colonists presumably joined the Croatans and 80-90% probably died quickly from disease (it wasn’t just the Indians facing new diseases). Odds are a few survived for 10 or 20 years, maybe even some babies got born, but that kind of exact detail disappears fast if it isn’t written down. Oral tradition is about as good as the paper it’s written on…

So we really don’t know anything more than we did in 1590, but it is safe to say they are all dead now.

Contrary to your assertion, there is not universal acceptance that all the settlers joined the Amerind tribe in question. There was an excellent discussion of this at Wikipedia; the usual reasons to discount what is contained at that source are apparently absent from the linked article.

Bumped.

A new book, based on recent archeology, backs the theory that the colonists assimilated into a local Indian tribe: https://www.pilotonline.com/news/vp-nw-not-lost-20200817-qgmblubzt5dyjm3jrcop25ssoq-story.html

Yeah, it’s also not universally accepted that Armstrong and Aldrin ever went to the moon, or that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman.

15 years after you made that claim, can you cite any sensible alternative theories for the disappearance?

Time traveling astronauts brought them all to the moon. The lamestream media will never tell you about the Roanoke Moon Base!

Probably because Clive Cussler already wrote about it.

I will point out that altho the evidence is very good that is what they did, the single word “croatoan” carved into a tree is not very good evidence . I mean, they could have carved “went to croatoan village” but why just a single word? They didnt have time for a couple more?

It was a pre-arranged code. They had already agreed that if they had to relocate, they would carve the name of their destination into a fence post. As a further code, a carved cross would indicate that they moved under duress. So the word “Croatoan” on its own is a perfectly clear message.

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