And make Trump pay for it.
I’m pretty sure that’s one wall that Mexico would gladly pay for.
I think in Florida no one can seize your home to pay for your debts, isn’t it? So if Mar a lago is his home, no one can seize it! As it’s his probably highest $ asset, it was smart for him to move his official residency to there.
I thought that was why OJ never had to pay off the Goldman family, as long as he kept his money in his home, they couldn’t get it. Isn’t that why lots of people move to Florida? People with ‘legal seizure of assets‘ issues anyway.
Or am I misinformed about this?
Unless, as others have stated, he can’t legally live there. If he can’t legally live there he likely can’t make it his legal residence.
I think you’re grossly underestimating how much some people want to be separated from their money.
he has already broken the agreement. i believe that he was at mar a lago 30 times in 2020.
i can’t find anywhere that has the agreements exact wording. depending on the wording it could be 21 days per year or 21 consecutive days per year. those would be very different things. one he has already broken, the other, he just needs to leave at day 20, come back a day or 2 later and start the clock again.
All they have to do is to revoke or refuse to renew the liquor license, and it’s out of business like that.
They may not be able to prevent him from using it as a residence, but they can certainly keep him from using it as a residence and a club.
They’ll certainly try. The Commissioners of Palm Beach County are predominately Democrat.
Unless his agreement was with the county itself, it wouldn’t be the county taking him to court, but instead whoever he signed the agreement with (or its legal successor).
Either way, he’s not necessarily living there “illegally” but rather in breach of his contract with whoever he made that agreement with. So that organization or its successor will have to sue him in civil court for breaching that agreement.
Ideally, they’d get damages from him, revoke his special use permit allowing him to use it as a club, etc… but I suspect it wouldn’t end up being a slam-dunk. If nothing else, them not suing in years past when he probably spent more than 21 days there dilutes their case I’d think.
If you’re suggesting that he’s technically leasing/renting from a third party, said third party could evict him, at which point local police could physically remove him from the property. And, unless the landlord is a very, very close ally of Trumps (and remains so going forward), the local government will probably have a much easier time putting pressure on that person.
If those were only during times when he was the occupant of the Oval Office, I can see why special exceptions could be made that wouldn’t be made for someone who is no longer in that office.
Easiest thing for them to do, IMHO, would be to say, “Fine, it’s a private residence now, and a private residence can’t be a club, can’t have a liquor license, can’t have paying guests.”
He can live there, or he can try to make money off the property, but not both.
He would almost certainly choose to live there which, from what I gather, is what the locals are trying to avoid.
I agree that that is what they would like to avoid. But he may not be able to afford the upkeep on it if he is not making money on it.
My understanding is that it was originally a residence, and it was part of turning it into a club that put the limit on how long he could stay.
What I’m saying is that stuff like this is almost always handled in civil court- it’s a breach of contract, not breaking a law, even if the contract is with the county itself. Just because it may be a government body, it doesn’t give them special powers in civil court.
So they’re likely to have to lawyer up and sue him, and see how that shakes out. And if they’ve already let him stay there more than 21 days in past years, it weakens their case, in that they’ve already let him get away with it before.
Now if he’s breaking some sort of county or city ordinance via living there, that’s a different story than just an agreement they made with him. They can enforce their laws, or revoke their exceptions, but he’s also got legal recourse there as well.
The big question in my mind is whether any competent lawyers are still willing to work for him, and does he have the money to actually fight this in court?
FWIW, I believe the beef is between Trump and the City of Palm Beach, nothing to do with the county. Palm Beach is a small community on a barrier island between the Atlantic Ocean and the Intercoastal Waterway.
Probably? He’s already been ignoring it for several years.
The issue is if Trump is willing to break the law (which he is) and if any authority is willing to effectively enforce the law. If all the enforcement they’re willing to do is give Trump written notices that he’s breaking the law, then he will crumple them up and throw them in the trash. As I said above, I doubt that anyone will be willing to give the order to send police officers into Mar-a-Lago with orders to arrest Trump, use force if he resists, and bring him in to the Palm Beach County Jail.
I think Trump will be able to scrap together enough money to avoid having the water and electricity turned off. He’ll be able to buy groceries and pay his cable bill. And beyond that, he’ll just ignore everything else.
It’s easy for me to say now but this was my prediction too. And we were both right.
Any financial pressures would keep him at Mar a Lago, come hell or high water. Florida has very generous bankruptcy protections for a person’s primary residence, which exempts 100% of the equity in a qualifying primary residence. New York’s protection for properties in Manhattan is only $150,000. So, if he files for personal bankruptcy, creditors can take his house in New York but not Florida.
Technically, Mar a Lago doesn’t qualify for Florida’s exemption because the plot of land it is on is too big but he can probably subdivide the estate to keep the house on one lot that qualifies and the rest of the property on another that he will lose in bankruptcy. Of course, the remainder of the plot won’t be worth much, so after the bankruptcy is over, he can mortgage Mar a Lago and buy back the stump from whatever Trump toady bought it for pennies at the bankruptcy auction.
I’m not sure your legal analysis is correct here but I’m not going to do the research to draw a real conclusion. I will say that Palm Beach is a municipality that likely has the power to (1) sue for an injunction to enforce their agreement, and (2) condemn properties that are being used illegally. That said, I don’t think they will play hardball the way that Trump will.
The people saying he can’t live there are Palm Beach. The people he potentially needs to convince that this is his primary residence is (potentially) the bankruptcy court. They will use different standards to make their decisions and they may come to conclusions that you think are logically inconsistent. It’s apparent to me that Mar a Lago is already his primary residence regardless of whether Palm Beach likes that idea.
Trump has already legally claimed Mar-a-Lago as his legal residence. He did it in his voter registration.
Voter fraud! We found it!