what has Corporatism ruined for you?

I did not know that. In such light, I’d have to say that the biggest hassle of corporatism is the tendency for people who hate corporations to abandon thought in favor of blind adherence to the ideology of their clique, especially when they don’t get the irony of their claims to be independent and visionary thinkers. They are very tiresome.

Also, I would list new urbanism, sprawl hating, traffic calming, environmentalism, party politics, outdated copywrite rules, DeBeers and all manner of community activism.

I really haven’t experienced much along the lines of corporatism coming from the business community because loyatly to the larger community is usually implicit in profit maximizing. Counter examples, such as the RIAA, are the exception rather than the rule, in my experience.

Agreed. I’d love for sports to be a small nice hobby thing. You’d support your local team in matches against other teams from the same area, and the good players would get a free beer at the local pub 'cause the bartender liked that penalty kick last Sunday. Hooliganism and supporter violence would be severely reduced if not entirely eliminated.

Instead we have this huge, surreal industry which everyone has to care about or be looked at like some freak from another planet, paying people astronomical sums of money to be good at a children’s game while other people care so much you’d think it were something that matters.

Priceguy, that was the most eloquent, succinct explanation I’ve ever read to explain why I have never given a tinker’s damn about sports.

Or maybe s/he lived out in the far 'burbs, or in an ethnically-homogeneous mid-to-small-size city or town a long drive away from the Big City.

Funny, I just read an article about this:
To be a ‘clone town’ or not…?

Talking about ‘corporatism’ in Stratford-Upon-Avon:

Now I admit, I do like the low prices and the convenience factor. I’ve been known to say things like, “I love Super Target” and “Thank god they’re building a Williams-Sonoma in the new mall!”

But it’s sad how everything has become so de-personalized. Yeah, Wal-Mart and Burger King are the same everywhere you go, but… they’re the same everywhere you go. No variety. Sure, these places make life easier, but they don’t do anything to enrich it.

Oh, and don’t even try to convince me Starbucks offers lower prices!

So she might have to leave her little domicile of conformity and sameness to drive to the big, bad city. Or the next town over.

I go to minor league sports in my area and support local racing. I find them as (if not more) interesting than the major league stuff. Sadly, the attendence isn’t what it could be but there is still enough crowd to keep in going.

I’ve noticed this about a lot of chains, like Subway and Quizno’s – the mom and pop sub and sandwich places are much cheaper.

This is more of a local, junior corporation thing but it still bothers me.

There is a local bakery that has bought out their competition in my area. What’s worse, the product they make is inferior to the places that they bought out. The best donuts and bagels in town no longer exist thanks to them. :mad:

Oh, and most music nowadays is crap. It seems like even the news has gotten more corporate and less news these days. That may just be me though.

Bakeries is the big one. It used to be that local bakeries produced a variety of breads. You could get anything from pumpernickel to honey wheat with raisins. Nowadays no place offers anything that you can’t buy in a bag at the grocery store. The donuts and cakes at independent bakeries were a lot better too. These days the corporate places squeeze donuts out of a machine, and they taste like sweet paper mache.

And how about tourist resorts. It used to be that when you visited a place like Mammoth Hot Springs in Yellowstone National Park there was a top-quality hotel and fine dining. Now there’s just a fast-food type place and if you try to sit down they all but shove you out the door so that another customer can come in. Two companies, Aramark and Deleware North, went around buying up every resort they could get their greasy hands on. The gift shops used to offer specialty foods and high-quality clothing, now it’s all two-dollar crap made in China.

And no kidding about radio.

Corporation - (noun) an entity designed to decrease human enjoyment

What bothers me is the little things about the corporate based system we live in.

Radio, yeah… music sucks because of the record labels and the big money… yada yada… sucks.

The starbucks plague… sucks. But as has been mentioned before you couldn’t buy a frappe foamy something or other mispronounced by the suits.
What bothers me is the theme we have in our lives that seems more and more to become the driving cause behind the reason to live. We live for our cars, for our SUVs, for our houses and our DVD players. Life has become bland. We don’t go to the corner store, we go to the Super Wal Mart. “Average American” wanders randomly through the lanes of Wal Mart not for something specific, but rather for just an afternoon of shopping. We live in a pre-packaged world where the next big blockbuster or Lopez is far more important than who makes the decisions in our nation. We work more hours than most (if not all) western nations while hoping we don’t get cancer because basic medical coverage is not allowed by the powerful insurance PACs. Food has been brought down from a real family get together to waiting in line behing McDonalds for a load of calories so the Ritilan dosed consumer in training can get a toy along with his food. We work a 9 to 5 to afford the electronic babysitter with 350 channels for when we’re at work. Have you ever seen a kid blow up crying because he didn’t get what he wanted in the mall? How about seeing a 12 year old do it? I have. I feel sorry for the world tomorrow that has these kids who have been forced into this “must buy something today” mentality that feeds the corporations the $.

and I went off on a rant…

Actually, I know one - my good friend, currently employed by the National Institute of Health in Washington, DC, working for just about $20K a year. She’s been working on HIV and Alzheimer’s. Next up for her: Mad Cow and Ebola. She can’t even afford to pay her rent.

But she’s working for the good of the people! Hopefully she’ll have a profit sharing set up for when the pills start to get marketed.

They already do that here. Our rugby team is the “Vodaphone Wallabies.” I shit you not. And there are ads on everything. Jerseys, goalposts, goalpost pads… The cheerleaders at the last game I watched (I think it was state of Origin) were all wearing lime green outfits and advertising the X-box.

If I didn’t hate pro sports before I do now.

That’s very different to the experience of people I know in medical research. Two completely different viral infections, a prion disease and a degenerative neurological condition are very disparate areas to have involvement in even for someone at the lowest levels of research like an assistant.

A mate in London is finishing his Ph.D in epidemiology and his life pretty much became diabetes from the last year of his undergrad degree. His career, as well as his usefulness, would take a small step backwards if he moved so he stayed and kept moving up. It’s similar for the people I met through him too. Maybe a shift to a related field but four unrelated jumps like that?

Anyway, good luck to her. I hope she gets as much out of it as she provides for others even if she doesn’t end up with houses full of consumer crap.

I honestly can’t tell if you got whooshed. NIH = no profit sharing “when the pills start to get marketed”.
Gest, my suspicion is that Freejooky’s friend is employed at a relatively low-ranking post working for NIH at whatever NIH sees fit, rather than at research of her choosing.
But that’s neither here not there. A disproportion in who gets paid the big bux (or gets the huge tracts of land) relative to their utility to humanity antedates the modern corporate climate.

I was trying to be sarcastic, but perhaps the tables have turned. Although, if she got a job at a nonprofit instead of a for-profit company, what’s the complaint?

Hun, State of Origin is rugby league not union, the Wallabies don’t play State of Origin!

Federal Express tried to get an NBA team in Memphis named the Express, but the NBA shot down the plan because it doens’t allow teams to be named after companies. And Kentucky Fried Chicken tried to get a team in Louisville named the Colonels. Sooner or later someone will offer enough money that the NBA will back down.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism: