And now he’s taking bribes to make us look foolish and save Mace’s [del]butt[/del]…erm face.
What’s the going rate, Tom? Any wholesale discounts? 
And now he’s taking bribes to make us look foolish and save Mace’s [del]butt[/del]…erm face.
What’s the going rate, Tom? Any wholesale discounts? 
Nah, just typical discrimination against persons of radical political views and overpowering personal magnetism.
It used to be on worldpublicopinion.org, I can’t find it now but I have cited it in the past.
You may be right about Israel (and for some reason when you mentioned Israe, Australia and New Zealand came to mind) but I think I remember the statement having blanket applicability to all countries other than the USA.
Didn’t they offer to give him up IF the US could prove to the Taliban’s satisfaction that OBL was responsible for 9/11?
Don’t know. Could be a turban legend.
I can only feebly point to a website wherer I cannot find the cite. After the initial invasion, I thought WOOOT, this will be like Iraq war I, I guess it ain’t so bad, we’ll get rid of Saddam and then we’ll get out of there so the good people of Iraq can finally have the democracy and freedom that Saddam has been keeping form them… 3 years later… DOH!!!
Opposition throughout the world
Much more here:
The Middle East and the World Five Years After 9/11
Trust you enjoy colors. Especially when they used to factually counter your baseless spin…
Yeah, Israel pretty much supported the invasion, but in our defense, we assumed the U.S. knew what it was doing.
Is that really the reason? I would have thought, and wouldn’t really fault the Israelis for it, given their surroundings, that they were simply enthusiastic that someone was going to take down Saddam’s regime, and didn’t much care why, as the guy certainly seemed threatening to them, at least. That the Israelis thought we were telling the truth is something I would have considered a collective insult to their intelligence.
No, people here pretty much believed that Saddam had chemical - and possibly biological - weapons. Israeli intelligence agreed with its U.S. counterpart on the subject, supposedly based upon it’s own sources, although they eventually admitted to their mistake (I think Sharon severely reprimanded several high-level Mossad and AMAN officials, and even fired a few). We assumed that the whole “free the Iraqi people and instill democracy” bit was just some harmless American rah-rah PR bullshit.
Look, Israelis have no love for the Iraqi people and even less for Saddam Hussein, and if you guys wanted to take him down we weren’t going to stand in your way. But we also assumed you had a thorough plan for the occupation, and that it would be managed by responsible, intelligent professionals. We thought you guys would have learned from the mistakes of your past and from the mistakes of other nations, not least the mistakes Israel made in Lebanon and the Territories. In short, we assumed that you knew what you were doing.
If we had any idea that the net result of your invasion would be to increase chaos in our neighborhood, to build a nursery for terrorists who will focus all their energies on us the moment you leave, and to make Iran even more powerful and belligerent than it was before, then no, we wouldn’t have supported it either.
Has anyone mentioned the repeal of daylight savings time. I think that was a good thng. I can probably come up with something else but between repealing daylight savings time and his record on promoting minorities and women, I think I’ve covered most of his positive legacy.
col_10022, nobody has repealed Daylight Savings Time. I assume you’re joking, because the clocks turn back TONIGHT. Don’t show up an hour early on Monday.
I was driving home from Boston the other day, listening to NPR, and they had a long story about a soldier who is home from Iraq. He was badly injured, and is now living in his car, homeless, because he can’t find work and the government only gives him two hundred dollars a month. About two thirds of the way through his tale of woe, the reporter was talking about the pictures he had of his time in Iraq. One was of him with a 12-year-old Iraqi boy. The veteran was talking about how sad it was because the only thing the kid wanted was to go to school, and how lucky Americans were by comparison.
The guy was living in his fucking car, a wounded veteran whose government used him up and threw him away like trash and won’t give him enough of a pension to even have a room, and he was talking about how unlucky OTHER people were.
I had tears in my eyes.
I guess this post is off topic, but I just remembered that when I read that the war news got up upset, and wanted to share that story.