Is this really as bad as you guys are saying for him? Can someone please lay out a clear, concise synopsis of what exactly Romney is being dogged with right now? I get that you guys are saying he must have lied about something, or committed perjury, but I don’t get exactly what or how.
Has it been conclusively proved that he still worked for Bain from 1999 to 2002? Is it conclusively known that he owned it during that time period? What documents might he have committed purjery on, and how do we know that?
Just a brief blow by blow of the situation would be good for someone who’s stuck out on a boat and doesn’t have access to television news. Thank you!
Question 1: how does Mutt Ronmey (or anyone else for that matter), ahem, “retrogressively resign”, three years from the date he states he did so, from anything - let alone being the sole share holder, CEO & president of a company?
Post 1999 (when he claims he was no longer there) Bain did some shitty stuff. I’m not up on the details but it’s not something a Presidential contender wants on his resume. I believe it had to do with shutting down American companies and shipping jobs overseas.
If Romney was indeed not there at the time then the papers filed with the SEC are lies and are prosecutable as such.
However, the reality seems to be that he was there. But he doesn’t want to be known for being there at that time since that makes him responsible for Bain’s actions which he would then be accountable for. His defense so far seems to be “I was there but I didn’t actually do anything while collecting my $100k+ salary” which is not something many Americans can sympathize with. Most people have to do actual work for their money and most of them pay a lot more in taxes (and Romney is not being forthcoming on how much tax he paid either, which is also not endearing him to the public).
Either way he loses and either way he looks like a jerk. So he’s burying his head in the sand and plugging his ears and saying “La la la, I can’t hear you!” while completely failing to offer a narrative of his own.
And Mitt is listed as CEO and drawing a over 100,000 dollar salary from Bain during that time period. With documents filed by the SEC. Also felonies if they are false filings.
The reason the CEO job exists is to define the man in charge of the company.
He signed a document, under the penalty of perjury, saying that he was involved in no way with Bain after 1999.
He signed another document (with the SEC), under the penalty of perjury, that he was drawing a salary of at least 100k dollars per year from 1999-2002 when all this shitty stuff happened, and was CEO.
He is claiming that even though he was technically CEO, he still maintains that he wasn’t “actually” involved with Bain in any way, because the title was just a formality of some sorts and he didn’t take an active part in working there?
Will he actually get prosecuted for perjury by anyone here?? Nobody is going to believe 3)
Right right, but for the purposes of the elections form… I’d have to see it to be sure, but “no way involved with Bain after 1999” obviously contradicts “technically CEO from 1999-2002 but didn’t do shit while I drew a salary,” doesn’t it?
If I’ve read this thread correctly there’s
4) he signed a document (in 2002?) claiming eligibility to stand for senate because of his involvement with Bain?
Claiming active involvement with in-state business interests and a residence in Massachusetts, in order to qualify as a state resident and thus be eligible to run for governor.
So he either lied to the SEC, or lied to the state elections regulators.
I don’t think this will happen, actually, not because there isn’t reasonable suspicion of perjury in the various filings, but because it would be horrible optics for a governmental agency under the command of an incumbent president to arrest the challenging nominee during an election year. After Nov. 7, if Romney is not the new POTUS, all bets are off, though.
IANAL, but I don’t believe a private citizen could sue for perjury unless that citizen actually was hurt by Romney’s actions. It’s POSSIBLE, I suppose, that someone who invested in a Bain-run company under the impression that it was being run by that young wunderkind Willard Romney would have cause for action given the filings that say that Romney had nothing whatsoever to do with Bain in those years, but that’s not perjury. It’s fraud.
ETA: Let me rephrase that…you cannot sue for perjury as a private citizen regardless of if you were hurt by the incidence of perjury, obviously, because it’s a criminal charge, not a civil one. You can sue for fraud, however.
Note: the cliff notes version is that Forbes basically says it beggars belief that one could be the Chairman, CEO, managing director and sole shareholder and claim to have no on going involvement.
I think that list will get a little longer. I don’t see anything in it about claims he made to satisfy the residency requirement to run for Governor of Massachusetts.