That’s because at best science can only poke holes in specific creation accounts, such as Genesis. Scientists will assume God could exist and Genesis be false, and an atheist can’t disprove that God exists by pointing to the fact that science only elimates a few religions as being valid. Christians are stuck with only one possible creation account.
Serious misreading! I have suggested that I was going to bow out because it did not seem that I understood your intention. That hardly counts as a hint that you should depart.
In your most recent post, you seem to be saying that science and religion are not compatible in the way that skew lines do not cross. I have no problem with that perspective. When you earlier stated that you did not see why they would be considered compatible, I read that (in the context of the other posts) that you were claiming they were incompatible. I have no disagreement with the “skew line” analogy.
Well the times can match up if you use time dilation. Granted that means that whatever reference frame is referred to in Genesis has to be moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light w.r.t to the reference frame of the rest of the universe.
Significant fraction is (1 - 2.298742*10-23) c
Now that’s fast!
[Hijack]Most Moody faculty are not young-earth creationists.
Perhaps, but all the Moody publications on Creationism I’ve seen are Young Earth.
Any Gap-theory materials from Moody?
(Gap theory- there was an original creation from billions of years ago which was inhabited by dinosaurs & eventually humanoid primates, this was destroyed in the fall of Lucifer & the Six-Day Creation of Genesis is actually a RE-Creation about 6000 yrs ago. This is based on the remote possibility that Gen 1:2 can be translation “the earth BECAME without form and void…”)
May I recommend Gerald Schroeder’s GENESIS AND THE BIG BANG for a Jewish perspective? He suggests that the theory of relativity reconciles the billions of years of time-space Cretion with the six days of the Creator’s perspective. He’s written other books suggesting God creating Adamic humanity in evolving us from humanoid primates & that the “sons of God/Nephilim” passage of Genesis 6 refer to the intermingling of the two.
The Moody Press and the radio network tilt more to the fundamentalist side; the school is considerably less so.
Not to my knowledge. I also spent a year at the school founded by CI Scofield (Phila College of Bible), who invented the Gap theory, and the faculty there were pretty much embarrased to have it brought up.
Things like 6 literal days and the “gap theory” are very much the province of the Jack Chick/Bob Jones fringe. Nearly everyone outside of there hold to some variant of a day-age type of position.