What if the engine quits?

People who are apprehensive about flying often ask, “What if the engine quits? Won’t we fall out of the sky?” A pilot will usually answer, “Of course not. We just glide down.” Sounds simple; but what’s with “gliding”, anyway?

The first thing to know about airplanes (and helicopters) is that they have wings. Wings generate lift. There are four forces acting on an aircraft: Lift, gravity, thrust and drag. The opposing forces (lift and gravity, or “weight”, and thrust and drag) must be balanced for flight. (There’ll be more on that later.)

How do wings make “lift”? The answer they teach in the classroom is Bernoulli’s Principle. Bernoulli was a 17th-century Swiss mathematician (d. 1705) who found that by restricting the flow of a fluid (and air acts as a fluid), the pressure at the constricting point increases as the speed of the fluid through the point increases. Why does the fluid increase its speed? If you’re trying to push something through a restriction (a venturi in a tube, for example), the “something” (air or water, for example) behind it pushes harder to get through. The greater pressure is trying to put the same amount of fluid through a smaller place; therefore, the fluid must go through faster. Think back to your elementary school algebra. Both sides of the equations must be equal. So in the fluids example, you get more speed, but you lose pressure in the area where the speed is greater.

Wings are like half of a venturi; the upper part is curved. This means that the air flowing over the top must travel faster than the air flowing under the bottom because it has a farther distance to travel. (There’s that ol’ algebra again!) With lower pressure on top of the wing, the wing is “sucked” upward, carrying the rest of the airframe with it. (There is a debate going on which is more responsible for flight: The Bernoulli Effect, or downwash from a surface that is not parallel to the airflow. I’ll avoid that here. For this post, just remember that wings need air flowing over them to produce lift; which they do, regardless of how they do it.)

So now you have lift. When you have enough of it, it can overcome gravity, or weight, and the aircraft climbs. But how do you get the airflow to product the lift? In a powered aircraft, you use the engine. In a propeller-driven aircraft the propeller is like a miniature wing; except instead of lifting upwards, it “lifts” forewards. When you have enough “foreward lift”, you overcome drag and move foreward. Eventually, the foreward speed is great enough to move the aircraft through the air fast enough for the wings to generate lift. And you fly.

To recap: Thrust overcomes drag, and lift overcomes weight.

There are control surfaces on an airframe. One of those is the “elevator”, which is on the back of the fixed horizontal stabilizer; or the “stabilator”, which is a horizontal surface at the rear of the typical airplane that pitches up and down as a unit. Pitch. That’s the movement of the airframe about the axis that goes through one wingtip and leaves the other. “Up and down”. There’s a saying: “Pull the wheel back, the houses get smaller. Push the wheel foreward, the houses get bigger.” That’s true enough, but not quite accurate. An airplane must balance lift and weight and thrust and drag to remain in level flight. Remember I said that both sides of an equation have to be equal? Change one thing, and something else has to change. If you increase lift, then you are overcoming weight. But you need to get the force from somewhere to climb. So you need more power to maintain the same speed. If you don’t increase power, you can climb but you give up speed. Give up speed, and the wing will stop generating enough lift to overcome gravity. Keep losing speed and the wing stops flying. This is called a “stall”.

Think of it this way: The engine thrust actually controls alititude, and the elvator controls speed.

So you’re flying along and you hear a loud BANG! The engine quits. But you still have speed! And the elevator controls speed! You lower the nose enough to maintain your best glide speed. This is called “trading altitude for airspeed”. That is, you use one of the counteracting forces – gravity – as power. It pulls you toward the ground. You control the speed with pitch control using the elevator. By using gravity, you still have the air flowing over your wings and that generates lift so that you don’t “fall out of the sky”.

I hope you have a place picked out to land, because what goes up must come down! Oh, good; you’ve selected a nice flat field. That’ll do. But now you have a problem. You’re still coming down, but the rate is too great for a comfortable landing. And you don’t really want to touch down at 70 knots on those little wheels. OMYGOD! WE’RE GOING TO CRASH!!! Relax. Just as you traded altitude for airspeed, you can also trade airspeed for altitude (or, rather, a slower sink rate and slower speed). As you approach your landing field and are getting rather close to the ground, “flare” the aircraft by pulling back on the yoke or stick (“up elevator”). By increasing your pitch you are generating more lift at the expense of speed. Your rate of closure with the ground decreases and your airspeed decreases. As your main wheels touch the ground, keep pulling back on the elevators. Keeping the nose up will slow you down and keep the nose wheel from digging in.

So there you have it: a very simple explanation of why airplanes don’t fall out of the air if the engine quits. Or to sum up the preceeding in a sentence: You won’t fall out of the sky because the wings still develop lift, and you can control the “flying equation” so that you can fly all the way to a landing.

(Now to sit back and watch the 20 or 30 other Flying Dopers pick apart my explanation, add details both trivial and important, and relate stories of their own forced landings – which don’t really happen very often, by the way.)

Nope. I have no forced landing stories. Neither do most of the other pilots I know, many of whom have thousands of hours in the air. The one guy I can think of who does have such a story says it was no big deal.

For those of you who are still bothered by the question stated in the OP, think of this:

How many times have you had the engine simply quit on you while driving a car?

When I ask people this question, many say never. I’ve been driving for 15 years, and it’s happened to me only twice. Now consider that aircraft engines are designed with better safety measures, and are much better maintained than any car.

I think Broomstick was forced down once.

Rebuttal: “But you can’t just pull over to the side of the road in your airplane!”

Counter-rebuttal: But that’s exactly what gliding is! “Coasting” to a stop! :wink: And when the engine in your car stops, you don’t go from 70 mph to zero in an instant. Same with an airplane. You don’t just suddenly stop flying.

And Grok is right. Airplanes tend to be much better maintained than cars.

The first time I traveled to Maui on my own, something on the plane “quit” about 45 minutes out of San Francisco. They never told us what, but “mechanical failure” was a term
that I heard whispered by my fellow passengers. We made a steep turn, seemed to drop a few thousand feet, and began to dump our fuel. We landed - not gliding, but under some power - at SFO about 30 minutes later. Luckily, I was able to grab my only bag (carry-on) and get myself away from the airport before panic set in. I did fly to Palm Springs the next day, choosing a short trip to paradise over a longer flight across many miles of water. Yes, I made the trip to Maui eventually on my own. But for the rest of that day I stayed in a hotel room, ordered room service food and booze and watched expensive movies.

I still fly all over the world and back. I just have a lot more respect for the plane and pilots now.

I’ve got a few good stories about *almost forced landings…

When I was taking my flight training, we were practicing forced approaches. One time, my instructor pulled the power back, and I picked a field to land in. Unbeknownst to me, the field I picked happened to be a private grass strip, owned by a friend of hers (she pulled the power over that area hoping I’d pick it). So I lined up the airplane, and kept waiting for her to tell me to apply power. She didn’t, and we kept getting closer and closer. Finally I reached for the throttle, and she said, “Just put it down”. So, I landed. Her only comment was, “See? It works!”. It was then that I saw the windsock and knew I’d been had. But it was a great confidence builder!

Anyway, that’s not the whole story. The strip was rather narrow, and had an alfalfa field right next to it. There was also a bit of a crosswind. So when I lifted off, I got blown sideways right into the alfalfa field. The airplane shuddered a bit, and struggled into the air. As we were climbing out, my instructor looked out her window and said, “Uh, Dan… There’s bits of alfalfa stuck on the gear.” So I look out my window, and you can’t see the wheel! The gear was just a giant hanging mass of alfalfa blowing in the wind. I actually had to hold rudder pressure to keep the airplane straight.

Anyway, we flew back and landed uneventfully, but as we were taxiing in people were stopping what they were doing to STARE at us. So I gave them a big grin and a salute as I went by. After got out of the airplane we looked behind us. and there was a big green trail all the way from the runway to where we stopped. It took me a good while to clean that airplane up, too!

Another time I took a friend flying in our Grumman AA1. We flew for a couple of hours and landed. And since the two of us were quite heavy, I left about 45 pounds of fuel out of the tanks. So when we landed, there was about 45 minutes left.

My wife (who’s also a pilot) was waiting on the ground to take another friend flying, so I shut the airplane down and went into the clubhouse to wait for her. I didn’t fuel it, because I wasn’t sure how much gas she wanted to put in the plane (she didn’t like flying it at full gross, as it’s a bit of a climb pig). I heard the engine start up almost immediately, but didn’t think much of it. She flew off, and after a while I thought, “Hey, did she put gas in the plane?” But I figured she must have, or that she was just going to do some circuits.

45 minutes go by, and no sign of my wife. Now I’m worried, and I’m about to phone the tower and ask them to radio her and make sure she put gas in the plane, when I hear the sound of an engine. Sure enough, it’s her. She flies in and lands, and taxis up to the pump. I went down and asked her if she had put gas in the plane, and she said, “No, you were only gone for a couple of hours, so I figured there was two and a half hours left, and we were only going to be gone for an hour or so.” I told her that I had left a bunch of gas out of it, and her face went a little white.

Now, the Grumman AA1 has ‘sight tubes’ for fuel guages. They are clear tubes connected to the fuel tank with a little red float ball in them showing your fuel level. There is one on each side wall inside the cockpit. So I look in, and BOTH of the little red balls are sitting on bare, dry metal. I show my wife, and she turned absolutely white.

Anyway, the Grumman AA1 is rated to hold 22 gallons of fuel in its tanks, and I pumped 24 gallons of gas into it. That means the tanks were bone dry, the sump was dry, the fuel lines were dry, etc.

I used to have a habit of giving the airplane a pat on the spinner when I was done flying for the day. I always told my wife that if you treat an airplane well and give it some affection it’ll come through for you one day when you need it. Of course, this is just a joke, but it’s a handy way to tell yourself to always treat your aircraft right.

After that day, my wife gave that little plane a pat on the spinner before AND after every flight she made in it. And she learned to ALWAYS do a walkaround and manually check your fuel, no matter what anyone else tells you.

As mentioned in the original post, there is now a debate over whether the Bernoulli effect or the angled wing forcing the air down is mostly responsible for lift.

The Bernoulli effect is in essence that the top of the wing is curved, the bottom flat. the air must pass over both, but since the top is a longer distance, the air must travel faster and thus at a lower pressure over the top. The higher pressure on the bottom of the wing pushes it upwards and you have flying. Wheeeee!

The downward thrust effect argument basically says that the wing can be perfectly flat, but when placed at an angle and moved at sufficient speed, push the air downward and the force of doing this causes lift.

As I understand this controversy, both of these explanations are true to the extent that they both always cause flight, but the experts differ over the level of importance of each.

“With enough thrust, even a barn door will fly.” But I prefer having a curved surface. But that’s a debate for another thread.

Oh. I just re-read my OP. One of these days I’ll learn how to spell forward. :o

Sam Stone: The woman my dad sold his first plane to (the 172) ran out of fuel on roll-out once and on short final once. The time she ran out of fuel in the air, the airplane didn’t fall out of the sky. :wink:

On a different note, dad had a couple of friends fly their Globe Swift in for a visit. They forgot to check the fuel before they left and ran out on takeoff. Instead of putting the nose down to land straight ahead in the desert, the pulled up and stalled. (Non-pilots: Remember the equation? Add lift, and you need to add power as well.) They recovered and then got into a second stall. Came down hard, flipped over on their backs, and survived with serious/critical injuries. This thread was meant to calm fears that the airplane will fall out of the sky if the engine quits; but just like in a car, there are things you need to do right.