What if the US had a good education system would this lead to a more scrutinize governance

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At least we elect them. People in other countries don’t always get to choose who governs them.[/QUO
Sure most countries don’t have more than 2 centuries of democratie. But apart from few countries in africa, middle east and Asia every one elect their own representative.
But in the industialised world every country does.
They vote on the issues not the packaging. The amount spent on campaigning is in most of the cases caped wich leads the candidates to address the real issues. It is not a perfect system but it does stop Bush like candidates reaching office.

Just my point

I guess it depends on your definition of “a few”.

Not really.

I don’t know… the UK elected Tony Blair. He seemed very “Bush like”.

Surprisingly, that isn’t necessarily true. There’s pretty good evidence that increasing education doesn’t increase economic growth.

One theory goes that education is more of a signal of talent rather than an enhancer of talent–so the person who has a lot of education has signaled that s/he’s capable of doing high-level work, and so earns a higher income, but the extra education doesn’t necessarily provide any societal benefit.

Another theory is that economic growth drives the need for more education, rather than the reverse, so additional education (without economic growth driving the need for it) is just wasted.

“We.” It’s “we would.” You’re on the Internet, and we invented and own the Internet, so it’s “we.” Got it?

Well sorry Bubba but slamming Israel doesn’t equate to slamming the Jews.
One is a country the others members of a religion. Some even come from Africa and ain’t they welcomed opened armed by their fellow citizens of the promised land.
Yes I object to the elitist educational system in any country. England to a lesser degree has the same problem as america since Thatcher ultraconservative policies.
And sorry I am atheist and as such critic of religious ideologies. I deem them divisive in a modern world.
I would like to call myself a liberal democrat and as such believe that minorities bring diversities and enrich the cultural spectrum. This does not mean that they should be immune to critics; as I value above all, freedom of speech. It is after all and before anything the basis of any democracy. I am for a regulated capitalism. This is not the era Adam Smith any more. Governments should lead and not be led by corporations they represent the electorate. This is the reason why I advocate an equal access to quality education for every one. I will not pretend to hold the truth on any topics but these are my convictions my set of beliefs. I have also been called communist i am sorry but if anything I am Keynesian even if because of the <mondialisation>; supporting a sector of the economy and rising basic wages have become ineffective policies. And then again countries with better educative systems fare better in Europe
Germany, Austria and the Scandinavians are the prime example of it. They have no Harvard, Mit, Berkeley, Cambridge no elite university as such. But they are better of than most in this era. Better road, health care, employment, better houses in short the better standard of leaving in the western world
What is a better educative system? It is a model more adapted to the society.
Lets take England as an example. There is not enough doctors, engineers, technicians coming out of the system. This leads to massive immigration to fill the positions and leaves a sizable portion of the original population unemployable because they have no qualifications. They are the new poor the left over of an elitist system.
It is the same if not worse in the USA. The amount of foreign lecturers researchers and students is nearing the 50% mark in most of your top universities this is not due only to their attractiveness but also because of the lack american candidates.
Now you said I still have to bash the Christians so this is for you.
With the growing importance of the neo evangelists in the US an American president and his neoconservatives (Cheney and his merry men) henchmen went on a crusade in the middle east. In the process they destroyed a country. The reality they were there for the petrol. We were told Sadam was the reincarnation of Satan. This is war led by ignorant bigots. What did they achieve?
They created a lawless land. Was Saddam a religious Muslim fanatic no he was fascist for god sake the number 2 of his regime was christian.
Now all the Salafist, jihadists crazy of god fundamentalists muslims went to region to fight the new crusaders and they are still fighting and will for years to come.
Now you are going to say: You are bashing Christians and Muslims alike.
Well it is just a fact that Saddam did not have anymore weapons on mass destruction and neither was he involved with Al caida. The fundamentalist Muslims of Irak were in jails. The guy drank whiskey and smoke cigars. I am not saying he was a saint but even the last idiot in Europe Knew he was no threats to us. The Brits under Blair followed you under the pretense of the non existent WMD . The French and Germans read through the lines and the US stopped buying champagne for a month. Come on the French and Germans helped in Afghanistan and during the first Irak war but they were vilified by an American president openly.
Upon american invasion they were freed. This is why I said that America above any other country needs a very educative system so that you don’t elect anymore idiots so that you are not led to send your children in fools war.
And above all because you spend more money than the rest of the world put together
on weapons and your understanding of the rest of the world and local difference destroy the life of millions of innocents.
Here we are scared of Iran getting the bomb or North Korea having to many of them but what about guys electing a total idiot handing him over the keys of Armageddon.
The world knew about the cheat in Florida to have him elected. You owe to the world
to better educate your countrymen to make sure that this never happen again if just in consideration of the near million Irakis and Syrians civilians killed in the past 12 years.
What? Do I shock you?
This is what debating is on this side of the Atlantic not being scared of being accused of slamming Jews, Muslims or Christians; This is freedom of speech without spellchecker or punctuation.

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ir Timothy John “Tim” Berners-Lee, OM, KBE, FRS, FREng, FRSA, DFBCS (born 8 June 1955), also known as “TimBL”, is an English computer scientist, best known as the inventor of the World Wide Web. He made a proposal for an information management system in March 1989,[4] and he implemented the first successful communication between a Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) client and server via the Internet sometime around mid November of that same year.[5][6][7][8][9]

Berners-Lee is the director of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which oversees the Web’s continued development. He is also the founder of the World Wide Web Foundation, and is a senior researcher and holder of the Founders Chair at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL).[10] He is a director of the Web Science Research Initiative (WSRI),[11] and a member of the advisory board of the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence.[12][13] Extract from wickepedia.
But the french had the minitel since the early eighties it was the first public telematic communication system you could call it the ancestor of the internet. The americans had a military telematic communication system but the father of the modern worldweb is that British man not an American. The first modern computer is british. The first machine close to a computer ever is chineese during the Qing dinasty.

Or is it?!

“Power corrupts. Knowledge is power. Study hard. Be evil.”

We sort of frown on posting the work of others here without crediting the actual source.

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The OP has demonstrated something Americans and Europeans have in common: the ease with which they can see the other’s faults and the difficulty they have seeing their own.

I’ve got almost enough gold to upgrade my Crackhouse into a Crackhome. But right now I’m concentrating on upgrading my Methmiter into a Tweakimon.

I do agree with you Blair was very much like Bush both war mongers

Excellent point. Kind of puts it all in perspective, doesn’t it?

malghe, I think you’ll find that very few people here disagree with you on many of your points. Really, you’re preaching to the choir for most of it. (That’s an American English idiom, by the way. It means you’re trying to persuade people who already agree with you.[sup]*[/sup])

Unfortunately, however, you write like a spastic three year old chimpanzee. If you cannot manage to type a coherent sentence, let alone paragraph, you have not the slightest bit of business lecturing anyone else about education.

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English is my second language and I admitted many times before that my grammar is a crime against nature, but you sir is committing a grammar genocide. :slight_smile:

And while I disagree with the Israel item of yours and others, I do agree with a few items you ranted about Bush, but as another more sage poster said before:

“A jerk that agrees with me is still a jerk”

Looks like someone learning to type on a tablet or smart phone.

Need a cite for this as the one that is recognized as being first is the Antikythera mechanism.

And even medieval European mechanized astronomical clocks predate the Qing Dynasty. By centuries.
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It’s a biased argument by the OP. “If you don’t agree with me, it means you’re not educated enough.”

I see.

Standard American English spellings are not required here, AFAIK, and transliteration from Arabic is fluid even in US English. “Irak” is used at very least in Spanish- and French-speaking countries.

So, yanno, swing and miss. Which is a shame, because there are so many softballs coming from the OP you really should be able to get your bat on at least one of them.