What is a "go-ahead" touchdown?

[Figaro]

This should be easy, and I hope it hasn’t been answered already – a search didn’t turn up anything relevant.

So…what makes a touchdown in American football a “go-ahead” touchdown, as opposed to just a reg’ler ole touchdown?

Thanks,
~fig

[Santo_Rugger]

If, by making the touchdown, you “go-ahead” on the scoreboard.

If you’re down 7-10, and score a touchdown, it would be a “go-ahead”, and is considered “unanswered” until the other team scores.

[Wee_Bairn]

@Pygmy Rugger

If, by making the touchdown, you “go-ahead” on the scoreboard.

If you’re down 7-10, and score a touchdown, it would be a “go-ahead”, and is considered “unanswered” until the other team scores.

Unlike the “game winning rbi” in baseball, which is the rbi that gives the team a lead it never relinquishes. If team A leads 10-0 then wins 10-9, the game winning rbi is the one the first one, not then tenth one.

[Figaro]

@Pygmy Rugger

If, by making the touchdown, you “go-ahead” on the scoreboard.

If you’re down 7-10, and score a touchdown, it would be a “go-ahead”, and is considered “unanswered” until the other team scores.

:smack: How could I not have thought of that?

Here I thought it had something to do with field position, and some arcane yardage zone in which QB’s had a green light to go for the end zone.

[garygnu]

Don’t feel bad. For the longest time I thought it had something to do with defensive ineptitude.

[Liberal]

Now that that’s settled, I wish someone would explain to me once and for all what “pin high” means in golf. I’ve heard everything from “behind the hole with respect to the golfer” to “a hole on a plateau”.

[Telemark]

@Wee Bairn

Unlike the “game winning rbi” in baseball, which is the rbi that gives the team a lead it never relinquishes. If team A leads 10-0 then wins 10-9, the game winning rbi is the one the first one, not then tenth one.

Really? I’ve never heard it used like that. In your example I would have thought the “game winning RBI” was the 10th.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Liberal

Now that that’s settled, I wish someone would explain to me once and for all what “pin high” means in golf. I’ve heard everything from “behind the hole with respect to the golfer” to “a hole on a plateau”.

The “high” part is misleading. It doesn’t refer to elevation but depth. It means your distance is right on (not too short, not too long) but that you’re wide of the hole or at a right angle to it. Picture the green as having horizontal stripes across it from front to back. The “stripe” with the pin on it is the one that’s “pin high.”

[Wee_Bairn]

@Telemark

Really? I’ve never heard it used like that. In your example I would have thought the “game winning RBI” was the 10th.

That’s what sensible people like us would think, but no, it was an official stat from 1980 to 1988 and was probably dropped because of the stupid methodology used to determine it- a leadoff hitter with a year like Brady Andersons could easily led the league in them just by batting first and the team never losing that lead, when it should be more of a reflection on clutch hitting.

[Santo_Rugger]

@Liberal

Now that that’s settled, I wish someone would explain to me once and for all what “pin high” means in golf. I’ve heard everything from “behind the hole with respect to the golfer” to “a hole on a plateau”.

Here’s a tidbit of info you may already know, that I didn’t discover (on the SDMB, IIRC) until I’d played golf for over 10 years:

The little flag on the shaft of the pin that usually says “Repair Ball Marks on Green” is placed on the flag relative to where the pin is on the green. For example, if the hole is on the “back” of the green, the flag will be near the top of the pin. If the hole is near the “front” of the green, the flag will be near the bottom of the pin.

[Outpits]

@Pygmy Rugger

Here’s a tidbit of info you may already know, that I didn’t discover (on the SDMB, IIRC) until I’d played golf for over 10 years:

The little flag on the shaft of the pin that usually says “Repair Ball Marks on Green” is placed on the flag relative to where the pin is on the green. For example, if the hole is on the “back” of the green, the flag will be near the top of the pin. If the hole is near the “front” of the green, the flag will be near the bottom of the pin.

This really varies by golf courses. Some courses use different colored flags to indicate whether the pin is in the front/middle/back of the green. Of course, with GPS technology in so many carts that will tell you exactly how far to the pin, some of this is being phased out. Check your course scorecards for these “hidden codes”. (I do realize some courses do not change their GPS coordinates when they move the holes, only measuring them to the center of the green. On the courses I usually play, they recalibrate the GPS whenever they move the pin placements. Again, check the scorecard or ask the pro.)

[wolfman]

I think the game-winning RBI was more tied to the pitcher of record than the batter. Once the Starting pitcher has a lead, he will win the game, unless the other team ties or goes ahead at some point. So rather than game-winning RBI it is more “RBI that put the Pitcher into position to be the winning pitcher, and that position was never relinquished”

[Wee_Bairn]

@wolfman

I think the game-winning RBI was more tied to the pitcher of record than the batter. Once the Starting pitcher has a lead, he will win the game, unless the other team ties or goes ahead at some point. So rather than game-winning RBI it is more “RBI that put the Pitcher into position to be the winning pitcher, and that position was never relinquished”

No, I’m referring to something different- what you are explaining is part of how the winning pitcher is determined.

[Figaro]

@Outpits

This really varies by golf courses. Some courses use different colored flags to indicate whether the pin is in the front/middle/back of the green. Of course, with GPS technology in so many carts that will tell you exactly how far to the pin, some of this is being phased out. Check your course scorecards for these “hidden codes”. (I do realize some courses do not change their GPS coordinates when they move the holes, only measuring them to the center of the green. On the courses I usually play, they recalibrate the GPS whenever they move the pin placements. Again, check the scorecard or ask the pro.)

Yet another system is the “Today’s Pin Placement” chart on the first tee of some courses. It will usually have a number, like 1, 2, or 3, on it, corresponding to relative pin placements diagramed on charts in the golf cart.

[wolfman]

No, I’m referring to something different- what you are explaining is part of how the winning pitcher is determined.

What I’m saying is that Game winning Pitcher stat and Game-winning RBI stat are tied together at the time of the scoring of the “Run that puts them up for good”. Which Is why it was not the more intuitive seeming RBI “which won the game” for Game-winning RBI stat

[Wee_Bairn]

@wolfman

What I’m saying is that Game winning Pitcher stat and Game-winning RBI stat are tied together at the time of the scoring of the “Run that puts them up for good”. Which Is why it was not the more intuitive seeming RBI “which won the game” for Game-winning RBI stat

My mistake, I misinterpreted your earlier post.

[Liberal]

@Diogenes the Cynic

The “high” part is misleading. It doesn’t refer to elevation but depth. It means your distance is right on (not too short, not too long) but that you’re wide of the hole or at a right angle to it. Picture the green as having horizontal stripes across it from front to back. The “stripe” with the pin on it is the one that’s “pin high.”

Thank you! Got it. Finally. (I would hope the lines are slightly curved, but I’m not gonna press my luck.)