AIUI the fact that more front line workers are minorities is part of the reason they have been more affected. This seems to get the causation backwards.
ZS seems rather prone to… exaggeration in his claims.
It could, if that was what they said, again, a lot of what you are declaring is coming from right wing sources that misrepresented what the experts where recommending.
Again, while other posters exaggerate, you still need a cite that shows that the right wing narrative on this side issue is relevant to the Critical Race Theory discussion.
What specifically have I said that is coming from right-wing sources?
IMHO your followup questions to Babale and others that accepted what the other poster claimed with no doubts.
Again, you also need a cite that shows that the right wing narrative on this side issue is relevant to the Critical Race Theory discussion, otherwise, there is no need to accept that this side issue was relevant or useful.
You’re clearly not a very good source on racial inequality in the UK in general, and this is no exception.
Yes, BAME people have unequal access to healthcare in the UK. Sadly, this was being addressed under the last Labour government but that was reversed under the Conservatives, and is unlikely to get any better given Brexit and all.
Although I will note that you gave yourself the “radically” weasel-word there, I think the COVID death disparities qualify as “radical” enough.
And yet you keep using him as your primary source of information…
I suspected there might be some inequality, but it’s not comparable to uninsured people in America, who have nearly no access to health care.
What do you expect from a Tory government?
I don’t believe @ZosterSandstorm writes for the NY Times.
Again, the right wing sources (and that was what ZS cited) misrepresented what the expert was recommending.
You see, requesting a cite from you would also show that you are not just relying on misrepresentations to continue going on. Remember that is not only about seeing if you can identify proper support for the accusation about excluding whites, but also the accusation that CRT has its ‘grubby hands’ on this side issue.
Is the NY Times right wing? Can anyone say what the equivalent would be in the UK? I’m not too familiar with US publications.
I suppose it wouldn’t really fit the thread if CRT is not involved, but I’m not particularly interested whether these scientists espouse a particular theory or not. I am concerned that these sort of views have an influence on a decision that affects all Americans.
Oy!
The misreading and out of context cite with spin came from a right winger on twetter. Other right wing rag or blog was the originator of the misrepresentation.
So no then. There is no evidence that this is related to Critical Race theory or their main proponents.
By my reading, they suggest exactly that. The quote from Encyclopedia of Diversity and Social Justice explicitly states that Critical Race Theory “… argues, as a starting point, that the axis of American social life is fundamentally constructed in race. As a result, the economic, political, and historical relationships and arrangements that social actors have to institutions and social processes are all race based.” I don’t know how to construe that except as an articulation of the principle that every social inequality in American society is, somehow, based in race.
Similarly, when Ibram Kendi states There is no such thing as a nonracist or race-neutral policy it rather forces the same conclusion. If all systemic inequalities stem from discriminatory policies of one kind or another, and all policies are either racist or anti-racist, it follows that race is inextricably linked to all systemic inequalities. The link may, perhaps, be tangential, but it’s always there. I stand by my interpretation, for the moment.
Which CRT advocates have you met? Are they professional CRT scholars? Have they written books on the subject? I don’t mean to sound snooty, but, absent evidence of their expertise, I see no reason to give their opinions the same weight as the scholars I cited. Of course, if you could show me that your acquaintances have commensurate expertise I’d be willing to revise my opinion.
Please could you cite your definition of Critical Race Theory so I can see how you arrived at that conclusion?
When I said I didn’t necessarily agree with Compson’s conclusion, I meant exactly that. Compson’s reading of Schdmit may be uncharitable, but that doesn’t make it a lie.
I’ll address this as exemplary of your broader point, since Kendi is the one I’ve read most. His point isn’t that every inequality is race-based. His point, as I remember it, is that if you’re not actively considering racist institutions in a policy, the policy leaves those racist institutions intact, and is therefore racist.
The idea that Kendi et al reject any analysis of inequality other than racism is facile, and is trivially disproved.
Since that’s a vacillation, it’s essentially a meaningless statement, so you meant “exactly” squat.
It’s a yes/no question - do you agree with him that Schmidt says what he says he did?
It very much does. Schmidt said absolutely nothing about “more white[sic] people dying”.
In fact, any honest reading of their comment indicates they’re reasonably assured White people are not going to be dying - and they think that’s because of White privilege.
Thing is that I have seen many examples of dubious sources (and conspiracy sites) doing the uncharitable thing, and then other less reliable sources drop the conditionals, copy paste the misleading bit and never do corrections.
I have seen this movie before countless of times with climate science and other items being spun by dubious sources of information.
12:55: Ultimately, the accuracy of what we believe is our responsibility, because where we source our information is entirely up to us. We can check the accuracy of stories ourselves and use reliable sources or we can believe the Cliff Clavin’s of this world.
Again, this is not an issue on which reasonable people can disagree. To continue to make the claim that “the essence of Critical Race Theory is that all inequalities in society are race-based” is to willfully misconstrue the subject, full stop.