What is Critical Race Theory?

Nah i got it right the first time. Millions of ppl say homeopathy works but thats not data and is 100% worthless.

I’m glad that’s your takeaway from this discussion.

I don’t think there could have been a better test of this than the last 4 years. Previous to the last election a case could have been made that you could take peoples protestations that they were not personally racist at their word and contrast it with the existence of institutional racism to show that this thesis is plausible. But 4 Novembers ago a majority of Americans who would consider themselves “White” were okay enough with a known racist that they allowed him to lead the country. One might in a charitable mood consider them low information voters who simply didn’t know that about $45, but I’m no longer wiling to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I’m just using the Presidential election as a proxy for demonstrating personal racism, not saying that institutional racism would be solved if Trump weren’t in office. But while institutional racism would probably still have some power if all of the racist people didn’t exist or changed their ways, it would be a heck of a lot less powerful.

Perhaps. But I bet it would be for a different reason.

What, the policy banned in 9 US states including the most populous, that only exists in the 2nd-most-populous state because of SC action, and that the majority of White Americans oppose? That could be seen as the bare minimum of a sop and a policy that, some would say, doesn’t actually cost anything and has tangible benefits to White supremacy since it produces a White-adjacent buffer group of working PoC drones that Whiteness can point to as a crippled alternative to real change but never allow into the upper echelons of power? That affirmative action? What about it?

That’s absolutely not the case.

And I take it you have no defence for putting words in Bell’s mouth that he never said?

Fair enough.

Well I guess you showed me!

It’s a money-making racket where bigots get companies to pay them BIG MONEY to say that all white people are racists:

I don’t even know what else to say to such a ridiculous statement. “CRT says everyone is a racist” is flatly, completely false. It’s the OPPOSITE of a central plank of CRT, which is that racism can have effects on people even when the people involved are not personally trying to be racist. Have you actually done any primary reading on this? Your claim is like me saying of Adam Smith that he thought mercantilism was a fabulous idea.

Well, as a minority that was just aware of the basics of CRT, I thought that by now you or Riemann would had posted evidence of how unscientific they are and how they dropped traditional liberalism.

I guess he did show you just how your posts look like so far. Just uninformed opinion really.

Newsguard, that checks for accuracy gives no score to The Union Journal, Newsguard though points at mediabiasfactcheck.com as reliable and they report that The Union Journal is a questionable source.

Looking for less biased reports on that incident it is clear (even in the original reporting too BTW) that whoever hired that speaker did not get a proper speaker, she was actually a self described “expert” with no clear evidence reported that she was trained on CRT.

Source of that seems to be LifeZette, and that is a conservative American website founded in 2015 by conservative political commentator Laura Ingraham.

Seems more to me that they are nutpicking.

Media Bias Fact Check is a scam according to prominent liberal Bill Palmer:

That is nice, but I did not just consult mediabias, I consulted Newsguard too and their view of Palmer is not flattering. Newsguard found that Palmer “repeatedly published false content.” So one reason why I do not link to the PalmerReport.

As for the matter at hand, the point was that what originated from Laura Ingram was a nutpick, not evidence about what people investigating CRT are about.

To get this in a proper setting, I looked at how this item is seen across the pond, Britannica did get a contribution from Tommy Curry who is an Associate Professor of Philosophy at Texas A&M University.

According to critical race theory (CRT), racial inequality emerges from the social, economic, and legal differences that white people create between “races” to maintain elite white interests in labour markets and politics, giving rise to poverty and criminality in many minority communities. The CRT movement officially organized itself in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much further, to the 1960s and ’70s.

Now, here is an interesting bit, posters earlier compared this with leaving classical liberalism or getting close to Marxism, as the ones dealing with the issue report, the CRT people are not looking at Marxism for ideas.

However, instead of drawing theories of social organization and individual behaviour from continental European thinkers such as G.W.F. Hegel, Karl Marx, and Sigmund Freud, as CLS and feminist jurisprudence had done, CRT was inspired by figures such as Martin Luther King, Jr., W.E.B. Du Bois, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers, and Frantz Fanon. Critical race theory advanced theoretical understandings of the law, politics, and American sociology that focused on the efforts of white people (Euro-Americans) to maintain their historical advantages over people of colour.

Maybe instead of going through a multi-step process to determine if something is allowed within you news bubble, why not just click the link and read it?

I did, that is why I concluded that was a nutpick, you need to read the cites too.

BTW speaking about news bubbles, avoiding the Palmer Report even if it is a liberal outfit, is what one has to do to avoid face plants like when you posted that nutpick.

What did you find to be incorrect?

Face plant x2 for that post of yours then.

Nowhere it is demonstrated that that nut in the video was trained or related to people in academia that does deal with CRT, it is only alleged by biased tweets or posters, neither that she is involved in BLM.

“They didn’t do it right” is the excuse for every failed liberal idea.

"Diversity trainings are big business. In the United States, companies spend about £6.1 billion per year

Unfortunately, there’s little evidence-backed consensus about which sorts of diversity programmes work, and why, and there have been long-standing concerns in some quarters that these programmes don’t do much at all, or that they could actually be harmful. "

https://digest.bps.org.uk/2019/04/10/finally-some-research-into-whether-diversity-training-actually-works-unfortunately-its-not-very-promising/

Well thanks for your own goal. It demonstrated why you were wrong, like I said, nowhere in your video it was demonstrated that that reprehensible lady was trained with the academics that deal with CRT.

And, Diversity Training is not really the same as Critical Race Theory, they are related, but as people with experience in the matter report. Finding issues with some training and trainers does not mean that the whole is bad, far from it. Diversity Training is not really the end, fighting against institutional racism is the key issue.

Antiracism training provides the specificity that too often diversity training does not

In much the same way that “All Lives Matter” fails to capture and address the needs of the “Black Lives Matter” movement, this moment requires specific focus on antiracism if workplaces are to achieve real equity. The truth is that racism is the root cause issue that’s gone ignored, swept aside, minimized, misunderstood, avoided, even rejected for far too long. Indeed, it’s a cancer that has grown and spread throughout many organizations in part because workplaces (and organizational leaders) have been unwilling to sit down and take in the bad news, then start working on a treatment. Antiracism initiatives require doing just that – actively acknowledging, then working against racism. While that shouldn’t seem radical in 2020, Trump’s recent announcement is just one example of the resistance.

The truth is that we generally don’t like having hard conversations, reviewing disappointing metrics or soberly analyzing our own participation in discriminatory practices, procedures or cultures. Antiracism initiatives minimize our ability to pivot to topics and areas where we’re more comfortable and instead compel us to focus where we’re not comfortable. The hard truth though is that just like the most effective medical treatments use laser like focus to minimize or eradicate the tumor, our trainings and initiatives should be focused as well. There just isn’t an easy workaround – no matter how much we might prefer to delude ourselves. Indeed, “All Lives Matter” is an honorable goal, but all lives can’t matter until black lives matter, hence the need to focus more specifically on antiracism.