What is Liquor? For the purpose of a liquor license?

I was watching an episode of “Alice,” and Mel’s Diner is having trouble because Barney’s Burger Barn has invented a new sauce. Turns out Barney has made his sauce with liquor. Mel says “Barney doesn’t have a liquor license.” So Alice says he’ll have to stop making it, and everyone is happy.

So my question is is alcohol put into a sauce at a resturant regulated by a liquor license?

This probably varies state to state, but I really, really doubt it. How else could they serve beer cheese soup in restaurants that don’t serve drinks?

I have bought BBQ sauces made by both Jack Daniels and Budweiser and both list their respective products as ingredients. Neither had any requirements that the purchaser must be of age. As far as most TV shows, Alice included, they are not based on reality as we know it.

Yeah, I imagine most places have exceptions to the laws for liquor/alcohol used as an ingredient in a prepared food dish. I’m sure there’s a limit to the amount, but most sauces and whatnot wouldn’t be over it.

For instances, where I work we have a whiskey caramel sauce that goes on a dessert. It’s not heated in any way after the whiskey is added, but you certainly don’t need to be 21 to order the dessert because it’s such a small amount.

There’s also bourbon in the salmon marinade.

See my post (#9) in this thread
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=440947&, whatever state I was looking into at the moment would probably define all the above mentioned concoctions as “liquor.”

OTOH, one might be able to call a marinade or sauce with alcohol in it denatured.

The only reason I’m saying this is becuase a few weeks ago my father was trying to buy white wine vinegar and wound up with white wine. This store does NOT sell any alcohol. The bottle said DO NOT DRINK, upon tasting it, my mother said it was wine, but it was way to salty to drink. I’m guessing that the added salt is enough to make it undrinkable and therefore can be sold by stores with no liquor licensce. I’m wondering if something similar is going on with the sauces and toppings. (Don’t shoot me about the denatured thing, I know denatured means that something poisonous is added like acetone of isoproponal or gasoline, but it was the first thing I thought of.)

I would say its because there is such a low level of alcohol in it to effect you that there i no need for a liquor license. It seems as how you don’t need to be over the legal drinking age to order a Lemon, lime & bitters

That’s cooking wine, which is generally legal for sale since they add the salt so you can’t drink it straight. It’s meant to be used in cooking only (though no serious cook would actually use it).

I have been in restaurants that refused to serve creme de menthe sundaes to minors, even though there’s only a tablespoon or so of creme de menthe. But I’m not sure if that is really an issue, or just the restaurant being extra careful.

But I have seen chain restaurants talking about Jack Daniels barbeque sauce. Usually in cooking the alcohol cooks away (not 100%, but most of it), so it shouldn’t be an issue selling it without a license.

I’d imagine both. Since they have creme de menthe on site, they most likely have a liquor licence. You REALLY REALLY don’t want to get caught serving to minors. A friend of mine worked at a Chili’s in Milwaukee (not the city, the county of) she said if a bartender get’s caught by police serving alcohol to minors it’s a $10,000 fine and the bar get’s shut down for the rest of the day. While I don’t know if that’s true or hearsay I can tell you that a restaurant isn’t going to do anything that may jepordize their ability to sell drinks.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=bpc&group=22001-23000&file=23000-23047

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=bpc&group=23001-24000&file=23100-23113