What is the oldest known photograph?

That includes dageurrotypes or any other antiquated method for capturing a recognizeable image.

(preferably with a link)

The Turin shroud? (I’m not sure how serious that should be taken, or even how old it really is)

The oldest photograph is a bitumen plate image by Nicephore Niepce: BBC News | EUROPE | World's oldest photo sold to library

Looks like a heliogravure from 1825.

ETA: Shouldn’t have waited to pretty up my link! :wink:

Wikipedia link.

I’d have to go for the Turin Shroud. I read a book about it once and I believe the author made his case. Without turning it into a hijack, are there any other negative images the predate silver halide photography?

I found that with my google-fu. When I saw it I was confused because it looks like a painting or an engraving. But it is a photo OF an engraving!

Yes. As an amateur photographer, I learned that this was the oldest photograph, but apparently the photocopy preceded it.
There’s also the possibility that there is an even earlier “photograph”.

Well, Well, Well,

Nice to see Wikipedia left me completely off the friggin’ page. Pricks!

I was an important figure in early photography and worth looking up.

I was going to post the leaf picture as well but Beowulff gets the nod. The early stuff is fascinating and when you see what these guys were up for trying it seems to further sap the life out of digital.

From your link:

Dude! Heliograph is a much cooler name than photograph!

You may be interested in the Robert Goddard novel Caught in the Light, which features much discussion of early photography in a sub-plot.

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never mind

What about the first known photograph of a recognizable person?

(I mean not a photograph of an engraving of a person; nor of an unrecognizable human on the horizon; but an actual close-up photo of a person?)

The oldest photo of any person is claimed to be an 1838 image taken by Louis Jacques-Mande Daguerre.

However, the “person(s)” in this photo are too distant to make out anything.

What I want to know is what is the first known photograph of a RECOGNIZABLE person/people?

For a better one, Robert Cornelius?

That daguerrotype appears in the Time-Life Books Life Science Library volume Light and Vision,, Page 64; by Niêpce. It’s very hard to make out, but that is because it has not been retouched. (Gernsheim Collection.)