And in the real world, atheists do not hate God.
Antitheists are clearly not atheists. Heck, lots of real theist hate other gods.
They, apparently, are good at compartmentalizing their faith from their skepticism. They have the properly skeptical, curious, scientific attitude – except where certain things are concerned. Either they ignore the dissonance, or perhaps they fallaciously rationalize it as a matter of Non-Overlapping Magisteria.
Doublethink and blackwhite are not nearly such difficult mental tricks as Orwell made them out to be in Nineteen Eighty-Four.
You can evolve anything you want
At Charley’s Restaurant
This has not been my experience. Growing up in Los Alamos I was surrounded by scientists, and the majority of them went to one church or another, even the high level ones. Admittedly I doubt that many of them were fundamentalists, but they believed in the laws of physics and biology and also engaged in a god centered spirituality without the two aspects interfering with each other.
:mad: No, dammit! Absolute global domination is for Dopers, not scientists!
Oh, wait . . . you meant this Board’s other agenda . . . :o
Yeah, arguing from fictional worlds is not very convincing. God exists in Touched by an Angel and Dogma, but I hardly think that will make me start going to some church.
I know one who does! It’s fascinating. He’s a lapsed Catholic, who is furious at God…for not existing!
I’m sure there must’ve been some polling done about this somewhere… What’s the latest numbers on this? If it includes some kind of rationale for who they polled (and for ranking them in terms of accomplishment), so much the better.
“He was an embittered atheist (the sort of atheist who does not so much disbelieve in God as personally dislike Him), and took a sort of pleasure in thinking that human affairs would never improve.”
– Down and Out in Paris and London, George Orwell
meh
His first clause is just rank prejudice that is not actually connected to the next clause.
There probably are more atheists at the top of the scientific food chain. I think that has been demonstrated in several recent polls. Claiming that a religious belief makes one “inferior,” however, does not actually follow from that evidence.
Logic and a fundie world view (religious or atheist) has been pretty well established to be poorly correlated.
Yes, some Christians are scientists. Some atheists aren’t. What’s your point?
Next thing we will find out is that it was satan who replaced Santa.
Who do you think leaves toy guns under the tree?
Preach it brother!
Sorry, I prefer to understand that I am responsible for my own actions and choices - and that whether the end results are good or bad, I made them myself based on my personal code of behavior. If I screw up, I need to apologize and do what is required to repair any damage, if someone does something negative to me, I need to be patient with them. If someone does me good, I need to respond to them positively to let them know I recognize what they did. Basically, the golden rule without some amorphous diety lurking in the wings with the threat of something that will happen to me after I am dead.
I agree with you and it should be a non issue but way too many fundmentalist Christians get worked up about it. Plenty of them believe that Genesis is the literal truth and should be taught as a fact in biology class or at least “teach the controversy” because after all evolution is “just a theory”. Funny they have no problem with atomic theory or gravitational theory being “just a theory”.
So as a scientist I do have an agenda, it is to keep creationism out of public schools.
I really hate agreeing with you, but we need a “LIKE” button on this message board.
Why do you hate America?
Aside from A Horse With No name.
Of course. And the spelling proves that he’s dyslexic.