After the first day, I’m sure Eisenhower thought that D-Day was going worse than expected and nothing went better than expected. It still came out ok. The ACA is off the beaches and moving inland, it will make up for that initial fierce resistance just as well.
As I said in the relevant GD thread, yesterday’s Hobby Lobby decision is complete and total nonsense IMO. That said, I’m much more interested to see the resolution of Halbig v. Sebelius, which should bee coming down any day now.
The administration’s loss in the Hobby Lobby case is a bitter pill to swallow, but it is not a lethal threat to Obamacare. For critics of the law, Halbig is everything that Hobby Lobby is not. Where Hobby Lobby exempts only closely held corporations from a portion of the ACA rules, Halbig could allow an mass exodus from the program. And like all insurance programs, it only works if large numbers are insured so that the risks are widely spread. Halbig could leave Obamacare on life support — and lead to another showdown in the Supreme Court.
“an mass exodus”? latimes is slipping.
Fingers crossed, anyway. Could be a much needed stake through the heart for ACA if decided for Halbig. Kinda funny that Turley, who, IIRC, was completely dismissive of Halbig case as frivolous, is now in a mild panic.
Past edit: my bad, Turley was not the one before thinking Halbig was frivolous.
Yeah, I almost linked to that article in my last post.
I don’t know how many times I’ve said that Halbig is one of the dumbest lawsuits to have ever come across the country, and it really points to ACA opponents desperation to undermine the legislation no matter how many straws they have to grasp.
Now, its practical effect would be to screw a helluva lot of people out of insurance within the 34+ states that opted for the federal marketplace. And c’mon, why the FUCK would the Supreme Court want to rule on the ACA for the THIRD F’N TIME. It’s frivolous beyond words, really.
The ACA failed to focus on the real problem all along: the ludicrously high cost of health care.
Getting insurance to cover a $60,000 surgical procedure wasn’t the solution. Cutting the cost down to, say, $3,000, while keeping quality and availability just as high, was.
i am not for the non-affordable care act
my co pay has gone up along w/ many others in my policy
i do not want to imagine the full effect of this
That’s one of the “real problems” (and, depending on the metrics looked at, the ACA has reduced costs), but there are others, like the high numbers of uninsured, and folks with pre-existing conditions not being able to get insurance that the ACA helps to solve pretty unambiguously.
Before Obamacare, did your premiums, copays or coinsurance ever go up?
I’m confused.
I thought the ACA was supposed to destroy jobs?
Of course, he’s still the worst President since WW2. :rolleyes:
How is Halbig stupid? Not only does the text say that only state exchanges get subsidies, that was the INTENT. Now the administration wants to reinterpret the law in light of the unpleasant reality that 34 states opted not to set up exchanges.
I’d say that counts as a pretty valid lawsuit. Unless of course we are not a nation of laws, but merely a nation where whatever result you desire should be what happens. Rule of men, in other words.
And yet the DC District Courtlaughed it out of court, in the inimitable way judges have. Imagine that.
There’s just one small problem: the text:
“enrolled in through an Exchange established by the State under section 1311.”
Federal exchanges are section 1321.
It continues to boggle my mind to see so many Americans root for so many other Americans to be forced to go without health insurance.
Really, why do you guys hate Americans?
You forgot the children.
What I hate is seeing millions more Americans being deliberately hooked on government handouts.
All children who ride on roads, eat food grown by American farmers, get vaccinations, live in houses owned by their parents, etc., are ‘hooked on government handouts’. And they have been for decades. I don’t see how it’s hurt them.
In that case, why does anyone need to work? We can all take handouts and nothing bad will come of it.
This is incoherent and child-like. Nuance exists. Grey areas exist. The way Republicans talk about “handouts” is infantile and makes no sense whatsoever.
If Obama would have said any of that, he wouldn’t have got a second term, or it would have never passed, the second part being doubtful only because demorcrats controlled by both house at passage
ACA is private insurance for which the covered pay premiums. Have you been paying no attention whatsoever?