Continue to shift those goalposts.
Nope, you are doing the reverse of it, talking like if this was a field goal competition when it is a full game with a lot of other elements that should not be ignored.
Well, if your existing insurance policy was a scam like this POS offered to WalMart employees, yes…your premiums will go up. But honestly, if you had one of these policies you didn’t really have insurance.
http://ufcw1167.org/x_articles/wal/wal_heathplan052003.htm
And my REAL insurance policies have had a premium increase annually for the past 18 years, at least. And that was way before Obamacare.
I’m actually not a big ObamaCare fan, I felt it was a bad compromise that tried too hard to pander to the conservatives, who didn’t want anyone to pay for health care for poor people except for the poor people themselves, cause they need to learn to be self-sufficient, doncha know.
And NOW their big objection is that it places a cost burden on low-income young people who can least afford it.
Then politicians shouldn’t make extravagant promises to pass a bill that they know aren’t true. They said we would pay less for health insurance, not less than would otherwise be the case if ACA hadn’t passed, which is an unprovable assertion.
How do you know it’s not true if it’s unprovable?
I may be wrong, but I think you would be on the hook for a lot less than $2.3k as you would now be paying the insurance co’s negotiated rate for your procedure. So you still may come out ahead with insurance even when including your premiums for the year.
It’s called an ad hoc hypothesis. First you say, “Insurance rates will go down.” Then when that doesn’t happen, you say they are still lower than they would otherwise be.
It must kill some of you to know that poor people are gonna live longer and pay less now, just KILL you. 
And those poor people can vote…
Was that the goal? Good to know. Now that we’re got the truth, let’s hash it out in the next two elections, based on what we know NOW about why ACA was passed.
LOL! You keep living in your “gotcha” world where everyone’s against you. If you hate poor people so much, just say so, don’t be shy
assuming you opposed the war in Iraq, does it burn you up to see Iraqis voting?
You might want to have a look at this (page 8). Iraqis voted before the war, too.
Yeah, and poor people had access to medical care before ACA.
The difference is they now have more access, while it doesn’t appear that Iraqis do.
Anyway, my point is that much as the Iraq war wasn’t sold as bringing Iraqis democracy, the health care bill wasn’t sold as a way to help the poor.
And now we find out that no, the exchanges are not secure with your data. Participate at your own risk:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57605564/obamacare-marketplaces-raise-data-security-concerns/
Minnesota insurance broker Jim Koester was looking for information about assisting with Obamacare implementation; instead, what landed in his inbox last month was a document filled with the names, Social Security numbers and other pieces of personal information belonging to his fellow Minnesotans.
In one of the first breaches of the new Obamacare online marketplaces, an employee of the Minnesota marketplace, called MNsure, accidentally emailed Koester a document containing personally identifying information for more than 2,400 insurance agents, the Minnesota Star Tribune reported. MNsure was able to quickly undo the damage because Koester cooperated with them, but the incident left him unnerved.
From your article:
That seems to be the response to every Obamacare fault: it’s the same in the private sector. So why did we do this again?
So that more people can afford health insurance.