What Kind of Bird is "Big Bird?"

[QUOTE=WhyNot]
He’s also a six year old, last I knew. But I think they mean that as “6” in human development years, not as in an adult bird. (Are most birds fully grown by 6? I think so, but I’m not sure.) Anyhow, he’s young enough to be innocent and ask lots of questions, and old enough to know his alphabet and numbers.
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When Sesame Street premiered, Big Bird’s characterization was entirely different- Big Bird was originally a clumsy character who would often trip or get stuck and spoke in a hillbilly-like voice. (If you’ve ever heard the original recording of ABC-DEF-GHI- which appeared on a lot of the Sesame Street albums even after the character’s voice changed- you’ve heard the original Big Bird.) Eventually, Big Bird’s head became larger and his voice became more childlike, as did his personality. He still did silly, childish things- like forget Mr. Hooper’s name, for instance- but he was no longer clumsy, but rather curious instead- much like a child.

For anyone interested in the life story of both Big Bird and Caroll Spinney, I highly recommend Spinney’s book The Wisdom of Big Bird (and the Dark Genius of Oscar the Grouch), a part-autobiography, part-self-help book which is all about Spinney’s life with the Bird.

“Big Bird” is both, actually. Malcolm Gladwell’s book The Tipping Point has a very informative chapter about how Sesame Street is tested with children that tells about a story in which Big Bird realizes that other people have unique names, like Oscar or Elmo, but his name- Big Bird- is descriptive of himself and isn’t unique. Thus, he decides to change his name to Roy- until he discovers that Big Bird isn’t such a bad name after all. The show didn’t test well, as young children didn’t understand that the phrase “big bird” could be both descriptive of the character as well as its name.

One of the first things Vogel said when he started doing Big Bird was that it was a perfect role for him, as “Vogel” means “Bird” in German.

[QUOTE=jayjay]
Oh, no! I hadn’t realized they’ve had new Big Bird puppeteers, not really having seen any new Sesame Street in probably a couple of decades, at least. Seeing the photos of him when I was googling for that link really reminded me that just as I’m getting older, so are all the people who were involved in the beloved things of my childhood. I think in a way, Jim Henson fooled me by dying while still relatively young…he was the most visible of the Sesame Street crowd and having him out of the picture before he became a white-haired old coot kind of froze the whole bunch of them in my mind at kind of “vaguely 50ish”.
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Then for God’s sake do NOT Google pictures of Bob from SS. Luis and Gordon have held up ok but he is definately showing the milage.

I live for the day when Big Bird will reveal his true nature as a terror bird, the apex predator of South America during the Cenozoic, and Sesame Street will flow with blood! (From Wikipedia: “Their wings had evolved into meathook-like structures that likely could be stretched out like arms to perform a hacking motion which theoretically would help in bringing down prey.”) That would give Oscar something to be grouchy about.

[QUOTE=WhyNot]
(Are most birds fully grown by 6? I think so, but I’m not sure.)
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Raptors at least are fully grown by the time they leave the nest. There’s usually a plumage change from juvenile to adult, but size-wise they’re full grown. Therefore, it makes perfect sense that we could have a 6’ big bird who’s still a baby. A five year old bald eagle still has juvenile coloration.

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
He’s a Grandavis sesamensis.
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:smiley:

[QUOTE=Death of Rats]
Luis and Gordon have held up ok but he is definately showing the milage.
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There have been three Gordons, although the current Gordon, Roscoe Orman, has been playing the role since 1974. Most of the Sesame humans have been there for years, and it is amazing that they don’t really look that weathered (although the newest human appears to have had some plastic surgery done since I last saw her on television).

[QUOTE=mobo85]
There have been three Gordons, although the current Gordon, Roscoe Orman, has been playing the role since 1974. Most of the Sesame humans have been there for years, and it is amazing that they don’t really look that weathered (although the newest human appears to have had some plastic surgery done since I last saw her on television).
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I thought Gordon (the actor) died a while ago-or was that Luis?
(A Muppet wiki? DUDE!!!)

The original Gordon, Matt Robinson, died in 2002, although he left the show in 1972. Emilio Delgado is still alive and still Luis.

[QUOTE=mobo85]
The original Gordon, Matt Robinson, died in 2002, although he left the show in 1972. Emilio Delgado is still alive and still Luis.
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Ah, okay. I heard that awhile ago, and I didn’t realize it was the original Gordon (I wasn’t born until 1978, so I obviously Roscoe was the only one I was familiar with)

Sonia Manzano (Maria) isn’t doing so bad, either.

[QUOTE=mobo85]
When Sesame Street premiered, Big Bird’s characterization was entirely different- Big Bird was originally a clumsy character who would often trip or get stuck and spoke in a hillbilly-like voice.
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One of my clearest memories is that whenever Big Bird walked into the little alcove where his nest is kept, he’d forget about the little cross bar above the door and it would hit him in the neck “Wagh!”. I realise now it was probably a genuine mistake by Carroll Spinney, who couldn’t see that bar either and kept forgetting to duck.

[QUOTE=Death of Rats]
Then for God’s sake do NOT Google pictures of Bob from SS. Luis and Gordon have held up ok but he is definately showing the milage.
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Well, he’s looking okay for 75, really.

[QUOTE=GuanoLad]
Well, he’s looking okay for 75, really.
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Yeah, if you’re comparing him to this guy.

[QUOTE=Phase42]
I always assumed he was the proverbial 600-pound canary.

As in, “What does a 600-pound canary say?”

CHEEEEEEEP!
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Ah, no. A 600-pound canary says, “Here, kitty kitty kitty.”

[QUOTE=Arnold Winkelried]
I live for the day when Big Bird will reveal his true nature as a terror bird, the apex predator of South America during the Cenozoic, and Sesame Street will flow with blood! (From Wikipedia: “Their wings had evolved into meathook-like structures that likely could be stretched out like arms to perform a hacking motion which theoretically would help in bringing down prey.”) That would give Oscar something to be grouchy about.
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Here’s a picture of the Terror Bird Titanis walleri found in Florida during the Pleistocene. I’m convinced that will be what Big Bird will turn into once he undergoes his last subadult molt.

Well, at least this gives us an explanation as to why Leela joined the cast: she was sent to the past to destroy the Terror Bird. And when your other only choices out of the pool are Zapp Brannigan and piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigs iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin spaaaaaaaaaaaace, you’ve got to go with the one person who isn’t likely to kill everyone else in the process.

Hrmph. I’ve learned a lot from this thread. I thought Big Bird’s distinction wasn’t clarified beyond “yellow.”

[QUOTE=Colibri]
Here’s a picture of the Terror Bird Titanis walleri found in Florida during the Pleistocene. I’m convinced that will be what Big Bird will turn into once he undergoes his last subadult molt.
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Hey, then he can cameo in the 10,000 BC sequel.