Yes, I can. The purpose of this thread is not to discuss how people in the South are still pissed off about the US Civil War. That’s fairly well known and the US Civil War really wasn’t that long ago in the grand scheme of things.
If someone wants to start a thread on how people in the South are still upset about the Civil War, please, feel free to do so (and feel free to link here). But please don’t sidetrack this particular thread with the discussion when I’ve politely said that it’s beyond the scope of the OP.
And it’s not as if there was any possible GOOD outcome for the IRish at the Boyne.
One way or the other, the Irish were going to be ruled over by an oppressive foreigner. The only question was, would it be they be under the thumb of a Scottish oppressor or a Dutch oppressor.
Does getting angry every time I (re) read something about Caesar’s assassination counts?, cuz i do :), I also hate the fever germs that killed Alexander.
There were a load of Tories/Loyalists who fled the States after the Revolutionary War. Their property was, or had already been confiscated. Most of them ended up in Canada.
Every now and then their descendants get a little media attention as they scream that they should be compensated for that confiscation.
The members of the Mayan tribes in modern-day Guatemala that co-operated with the Conquistadors during the 16th century still face hostility from those that did not.
This one barely makes your cutoff period, taking place between 1776 and 1781.
My dad’s family comes from the Carolinas, where people still speak with hot contempt of Banastre Tarelton, largely because of the Battle of Waxhaws and numerous incidents involved in the guerilla conflict with Frances Marion.
One particularly grisly incident:
That’s the kind of thing that results in old women spitting on the ground after saying your name, even 225 years later.
From Roman History, I’d say the battle of Allia and the later battle of Alesia still have some resonance, especially in France (I remember seeing a huge statue of Vercingetorix on one of my trips). Also, the battle of the Teuteberg Forrest I think still has some resonance today…but certainly, like Allia, it resonated with Roman citizens for hundreds of years after it was fought.
This past February Mrs. G and I went to Ireland for a week and went out into County Meath to see the Newgrange. At the visitors center we realized that we were not only on Boyne Water but right next to New Bridge where King Billy forced a passage of the Boyne and kicked King James out of Ireland, so we drove over.
The route was remarkably well marked. We found a perhaps 160 acre park with a visitors center in a 19th century country house, archeological exhibits, a movie, a big terrain map, 16th century cannons, paved walks, tea shop, big parking lot – really a very nicely set up little battle ground park. I was surprised, thinking the last thing the Irish Republic would want to spend money on was a commemoration of the event that secured English (that word is used advisedly since the event was before the Act of Union) domination of the Irish for almost 250 years.
I asked one of the ladies at the desk about it. She said that the battleground park was one of the terms of the Good Friday Agreement as part of the tentative settlement of The Troubles in Northern Ireland.
So if the Irish are willing to memorialize the Battle of the Boyne there may be hope yet for old antagonists to burry the hatchet some where other than in each others’ heads.
