I agree with your edit and think its well-put.
The OP likens Kevin Hart to shit.
There are two parts to this awkward and not very good joke:
Part 1: A small dark-skinned person is likened to a lump of coal.
Part 2: A physically powerful (or in earlier forms of the joke, uptight) person is hyperbolically described as being able to compress a lump of coal into a diamond by constricting his ass.
Part 2 is not in itself racist, but is sort of clumsily masking the racism of Part 1. If somebody told Part 1 of the joke separately, as in “Damn Kevin, you so black and tiny, you basically a lump of coal!”, I think it would definitely come across as rather racist.
No he doesn’t.
Yeah, this clumsy joke can’t even make up its mind about what part of The Rock’s ass Kevin Hart is in.
The original joke was along the lines of shoving a piece of coal up someone’s (tight) ass and getting a diamond shat out. But if you’re just squeezing something between your butt cheeks, it’s not in your rectum, so you don’t end up shitting it out.
The N word.
Is the joke shitting on someone because of the color of their skin? Is the white joke teller using the N word?
If either of those are true it’s a racist joke.
Maybe this would have given a clearer example if you hadn’t rephrased the original joke?
Do you have trouble seeing the word “shit” in the OP?
Ehrmahgerd, TriPolar, you’re doing it again.
The joke is a hot mess, yes–but something can be expelled from the rectum, i.e., be shit out, without being a piece of shit. To take a random example, if there’s a diamond in your rectum, and you shit it out, the diamond isn’t a piece of shit.
I have in fact discovered an algorithm with no less than 1200 distinct inputs for attributes of the joke, including phrasing, spelling, timing and the elusive punchline-to-setup ratio which will determine a joke’s “racist or not” factor with 99% accuracy.
It will be published in the February issue of Not a Real Thing, What Kinda Silly Question is That? journal.
There is no other reason to have the word “shit” in this lame atrocity of a joke except to further insult Kevin Hart, specifically for his skin color. Did you notice any “shit” in what the OP considered the equivalent joke about his son?
What kind of person tells a joke like this anyway? It’s possibly funny to a 10 year old because it has the word “shit” in it, otherwise it’s the kind of thing that racists say and giggle at.
Mhmmm…I mean, I guess so if you consider any reference to shit in connection with a black person to be a reference to their skin color? But I think that’s going a bit far.
I’ll go along with you, though, to the extent of agreeing that it’s intrinsically degrading/disparaging to speak of a person being squeezed in another person’s ass cheeks and getting “shit out”, even in the form of a diamond and not actual shit. And such a joke is also kind of insulting to short people.
A person who is not very good at jokes. Some people just can’t really tell the difference between scatological/racial “edginess” and actual funniness. As offensive jokes go it’s not the worst of them, but that’s not saying much.
Now you see, I would have figured that was a “fried chicken” joke, and therefore racist.
Not when there’s extensive history of racist jokes making exactly this comparison for any dark-skinned people. Cite: Growing up as a white guy in the 70s. These exact jokes were all over the place.
That is not even a tiny bit responsive to what I said.
It is because it disregards your assumption that the words used in this joke are meant to be taken literally. I don’t know where the OP got this stupid thing he calls a joke, he may be simply humor deficient and came up with it by accident, but it takes the form of many racist so called jokes having the basic elements of ridiculing people based on their skin color and not otherwise being funny, they are intended for people who think any disparagement of people based on their skin color is funny as way of reassuring their self perception of superiority.
That is not an accurate characterization. He’s being compared to a lump of coal. And that’s obvious. And Kevin Hart would call himself black. Black isn’t normally considered a racist term.
I wouldn’t say either of those necessarily makes a joke racist. Those can and are both used as tools to parody racism as well. Blazing Saddles is a great an example of a movie that, by your criteria, is chock full of racist jokes. I wouldn’t call it racist.
I’ve heard black comics do a lot with that, but, you know, privileges.
That is also not even a tiny bit responsive to what I said. Did you read what I wrote, or did you just notice I was disagreeing with you and so restated your position with slightly different words, in hopes I’d be convinced by the restatement?