To the bigots: I hope all your sons are gay and never talk to you after age 18 because you disapprove of their wonderful boyfriends. I hope you lose everything and your gay sons decide not to help you because you disowned them.
And no, I’m not gay. But I personally don’t think that matters.
As regards the OP: What makes a man is identifying with masculinity.
Depends on who’s defining “man”. I suppose this has to do with the way the public and media stereotype homosexual men as often acting like women (i,e calling each other “girlfriend” and “sister” and whatnot). I’m well aware that most homosexuals don’t act like this, but for people who don’t and don’t know anyone who is gay, I’m pretty sure they just listen to whatever the tv tells them. Anyways, my point is when someone sees someone on the tv who bassicaly acts like a woman stuck in a mans body it’s hard to think of them as a “man” in the (there’s a word I’m searching for here that slips my mind at the moment, so fill in the blank) sense.
Gay kid, straight kid, whatever. If I had two lesbian daughters and five gay sons I wouldn’t care as long as they didn’t run around all day bitching about some imagined mistreatment, looking to be persecuted. Whining about how other people define them. Can’t you all marry in the eyes of the law now? What’s the problem here? Boo hoo. Some person said “real men like real boobies not playboy ones” and predictably some crybaby had to start flailing around on the carpet because anytime you use “opposite sex” instead of “preferred gender” people’s rights are being anally violated. Talk about pissy thoroughness. I mean, they’re not going to start bombing San Franscisco just because one person on one message board said “guys should like real girls’ tits” instead of “guys should like real mens’ dicks and girls’ tits”. So calm down Martyr McFab.
Jeez!
Listen, I’m not saying gay people are inferior.
I’m SAYING that if your gay you can’t really call yourself a real man in the sense that I think the OP is talking about.
Being offended by this would be as ridiculous as a man with no legs being offended if someone said “You could never be a professional football player.”
Does the term “The emperor has no clothes!” ring a bell?
And if my son turns out gay, I’ll love him the same as I always have.
This is your first, last and only warning-do not post in this manner outside of the BBQ Pit again, and if I were you, considering your previous posts, I’d even be careful in the BBQ Pit.
My post wasn’t directed towards you. Sorry I was less clear than I should have been (I was fairly intoxicated at the time, FWIW).
And because I didn’t quite mention it in my last post: No hard feelings SHAKES. My first post in this thread, again, was not at all directed towards you, and I have no doubt from the way you conduct yourself on this board that you are a fine, upstanding person in all respects.
The point is that we on this site are supposed to know better. If we don’t,we should politely ask,rather than blather hateful cliches about things we’ve obviously never really thought about.
I tend to think of bigots as less than manly because my definition of manly includes contemplating the fact that I could be wrong about my prejudices. We all have some,you know. The trick is to be willing to ask about them. Fortunately we’re at just the right site for that. If you think it’s risky,e-mail a mod and find out how to go about it.
We need more answers from gay men here.I’m angry at two of the posters here,but I’m just not as legitimate as a gay guy would be on this subject.
Isn’t there a board rule about wishing gay sons on someone? 
When you no longer feel compelled to call your mother when you need to make a difficult decision.
Well, as a GWM, I didn’t say anything to Mr “nobody likes faggots” because I’m used to this sort of statement. It kinda falls into the undercurrent of homophobia that pervades this culture. I’m used to hearing that gays can’t be real men, usually from people who are unaware that I am a gay man because I “pass” as straight – I’m fat, hairy, and fairly muscular, so I don’t fit the effeminate twiggy stereotype. Sometimes, I argue the point and tell them I don’t appreciate being told I’m not really a man; usually, due to being outnumbered or in an inappropriate situation for an argument, I let it pass. In this case, the stupidity of his statement stands on its own.
What makes a male? A “Y” chromosome.
But to me, what makes a man?
The conviction to do the right thing, to lead by example, and to live your life as a good guy, because there’s way too many bad.
If you don’t live your life this way, you might be male, but you’re no kind of man.
I always thought the saying went:
Am I missing something?
So that makes gay men, what exactly? Eunuchs? Genderless?
Lebowski:
What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
Dude:
I don’t know, sir.
Lebowski:
Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn’t that what makes a man?
Dude:
Sure, that and a pair of testicles.
Reaching the point at which you’re not so concerned with what makes a man.
You got something against nudists, bud?
Not. At. All.
Yes: Don’t curse gay children with parents that have cranial rectal inversion syndrome.