What "obsolete" services and/or products are still available today?

My agency uses both, too. Although not the loose sheets of carbon paper. Instead, we have some carbonless forms ( with color coded copies- the green copy goes here and the gold copy goes there, etc) and some other “fill in the blank sections” forms which come from the printer in sets of three copies with two sheets of carbon paper in between. Why those aren’t carbonless I have no idea.

We use both. Though we switched to a handheld printer for parking tickets and an in squad printer for traffic cites, the written warnings tickets are still written with 3 copies (yellow offender, white for supervisor, pink for some archive somewhere in city hall). I can actually write a ticket faster than it takes to make one out with the stylus, so I hate it. Just another justification for an inflated budget. every agency in the state is required to switch to it eventually.

We still use dirty ol’ carbon paper tablets so there are 2 copies of a work order for squads and such. makes the 10 Xerox machines that we have work less I guess!:rolleyes:

Nava, I’m not sure what you’re saying here. Are you saying that in Spain, Italy ,Portugal etc, there are no areas that are mostly residential but have stores/offices on certain streets? That there is nothing like my neighborhood , where most of the “streets” are residential, but the “avenues” have businesses scattered among the houses and there are “shopping streets” ( the equivalent of a 'downtown" ) which are predominately storefront businesses most of which have apartments and/or offices above? That sort of arrangement is pretty common in the urban areas of the Northeastern US. Not in the suburbs or the country, but also not restricted to small towns- they exist in big city neighborhoods as well.

I’m talking assembly line test/technician … with a soldering iron … and a soak room … and the cute little ditzy scheduler who keeps getting herself electrocuted by hugging us techs while working … remember?

Interesting. Are the schools organized as small private schools or are they mostly unregulated? Are there any that grant accredited diplomas, or do kids who attend these have to go for a GED or otherwise earn a recognized diploma elsewhere?

My Dad was a telephone repairman. Time was divided between repairs of house phones, line work and maintenance at the (mechanical) telephone exchange. I was fascinated by that room. Dark, temperature-controlled with floor to ceiling racks of mechanical switching. The place had a continual clicking sound and you could always see something moving out of the corner of your eye but you could almost never actually observe a switch mechanism functioning. They would just go off randomly (ok, not random - stochastic perhaps.) And the p[lace smelled of bakelite dust and isopropyl alcohol.
Pretty sure none of that is very common now.

My favorite examples are from aviation just because I like the subject. 1930’s era DC-3’s are still very much in service all around the world and will likely continue to be so for the next couple of decades or more when the planes themselves are over 100 years old. They aren’t museum pieces for the most part. They just have a really good design that allows medium duty transport to unimproved airstrips and you can still get any part you need to keep one running indefinitely.

Piper J-3 Cubs are about the simplest common plane around and they were built in the 1930’s and 40’s. There are tons of the originals still around still in flyable condition plus lots of newer variants of them. They are also still fully supported. I have heard that you could, in theory, build a brand new ‘original’ one out of a parts catalog if that was legal.

One of my favorite facts involves the B-52 StratoFortress. It is still the primary, long-range strategic bomber for the U.S. It can stay in the air indefinitely with in-flight refueling and it is fully nuclear capable. It has seen service in every war since it was introduced. It was designed in the 1940’s, first built in the 1950’s and the examples flying today were produced in the early 1960’s. The Air Force has a very tentative date to retire them in 2040 but even that is iffy. The planes themselves will be close to 90 years old at that point. It will be possible to have not only the children and grandchildren of service members flying the same plane at that point but also great-grandchildren and beyond. The Air Force tried to replace the B-52 with other designs at various points and could not do it. They still can’t for the mission it serves but they have a few more decades to work on that.

eBooks still account for less than half of all book sales. Last I heard it was 30% so paper outsells ebooks more than 2-1.

My roomie is a farrier and does other smithing as well. She is a member of a blacksmithing group that is international.
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Because of course nobody twenty or thirty years from now is ever going to have to read old manuscripts. </sarcasm>

It reminds me of when the Turks switched from Arabic to Latin alphabet, and when the Germans stopped writing in Black letter. It’s a form of cultural loss.

My high school was built on the cheap in 2001 and didn’t have any clocks installed in the classroom. There were digital LED clocks in the hallways, but for the classrooms there were just cheap wall clocks that, I believe, had to be fed batteries.

I was on the quiz team and went to a few other schools, and several of the newer ones had digital clocks on the classroom walls.

Up until it changed a few years ago my job included going around the building, twice a year, and switch all the clocks from daylight saving time and back and if they required a battery I changed them too.

They are private schools and as I said, they fill a niche where parents in an area of poor quality public schools and who disagree with religious based private schools AND dont have the time or ability to homeschool. My relatives in Atlanta send their kids to one.

You take say 10 kids of smart parents, pay $5,000 each, and you get a pretty good teacher (with parents also helping out). With those kind of numbers and parents they still do field trips and the teacher has enough time for alot of one on one. It works out pretty well. They also sinc vacation schedules by everyone say taking off a week in October or March.

As for graduation - this school only goes to I think about 6th grade at which point they take tests and attend regular schools. So its closer to a kind of home school.

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My Dad was a telephone repairman. Time was divided between repairs of house phones, line work and maintenance at the (mechanical) telephone exchange. I was fascinated by that room. Dark, temperature-controlled with floor to ceiling racks of mechanical switching. The place had a continual clicking sound and you could always see something moving out of the corner of your eye but you could almost never actually observe a switch mechanism functioning. They would just go off randomly (ok, not random - stochastic perhaps.) And the p[lace smelled of bakelite dust and isopropyl alcohol.
Pretty sure none of that is very common now.
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AFAIK, there are no mechanical SxS (step by step) or crossbar switches left other than a couple being operated by telephony museums and tended to by a literally dying breed of devoted technicians. Now, a switching office sounds and smells like a datacenter.

I am saying that there are pretty much no places like that, yes.

You have your “old style” (old here means it’s been done since before the Romans started looking funny at the Etruscans) housing, which is mixed uses (stores at the bottom, offices above, housing above), and you have highly-planned urbanizaciones, much more recent areas which are completely residential, “need to get the car to go to the grocery” (no stores at all, no services at all, in some of them the only place you may want to walk to other than somebody’s home is a park); some of the newest urbanizaciones have gone back to mixed uses. Then you have small villages where houses are one or two floors, built following patterns that speak of rural living, of farming; houses where the big room that’s now being used mostly as a combo storage room/ occasional big shindig room used to be the barn and may still house a tractor.

And I did mention myself that those areas exist in the US - I said they are “less common”, not that they don’t exist. The difference is that for us, the kind of completely or almost completely residential areas which are so common in the US look like, direct quotes, “something out of Sim City”, “something out of the Sims”, “something out of the movies”, because it doesn’t exist here. For a large part of Europe, our default is mixed uses. I also did say, in response to someone else, that those mixed uses neighborhoods exist in big places such as Miami and Philly and not only in small towns.

And there’s another.

The United States tends to prefer Euclidian zoning which leads to large swathes of single use housing whereas most of the rest of the world defaults to inclusive zoning where mixed use is the default state of things.

I pass by an Alchemist shop almost daily, it is a pharmacy named Alchemist.

It’s not the price of the replacement part that scares people off, it’s the labor. When my parents last old-fashioned TV died a few years ago, they wanted as much as I paid for it new ($150) to fix it for them, so they bought a flat screen TV to replace it instead. I doubt labor costs on flat screens are much cheaper.

Admit it - you just do it to freak out the tourists.