What our laws and rules show (or decided) about when life begins

Ok, a woman is impregnated in say May of 2005. The baby is born 9 months later in February 2006. The woman cannot claim the child as a “child” on her 2005 federal taxes as a dependent. So long before Roe v. Wade the law made a civil determination it appears.

Ok, a man with a wife who gets impregnated in June 2005 gets a period to change and add family members to his 2006 employee health insurance policy at work in say November 2005. He cannot add the child until March 2006. The insurance company will only insure a child that is living as a human being. Key word “being”, as in being part of that family.

Ok, and final observation— can a unborn child get a social security card BEFORE birth? Could either of the above parents get a social security card for the unbeing? Do they consider the prebirthed a being that is allowed to be counted among the census count of people?

Thoughts?

You’re joking, right? The IRS tax laws are supposed to represent US views of when life begins? Dependency rules don’t apply to every living being and don’t even require that someone be alive!

As far as the IRS is concerned, if a baby is born at any time during the year, it is considered to have lived with you for the entire year. If it dies at any time during the year, it is considered to have lived with you for the entire year. Thus, a baby born at 1 pm who dies at 3 pm is considered to have lived with you for 12 months. And a stillborn child counts as neither a birth nor a death.

And let’s not forget that social security cards are primarily linked to employment and tax rules.

But your point about insurance companies… that’s changed my mind on the whole abortion issue. Insurance companies are never arbitrary in what or who they cover and why, and they always abide by absolute moral truths in everything they do.

Chill…The point being that no SS card will be issued or deduction can’t be claimed on the unborn. If she the mother filed on January 1 2006 she can’t claim a “life” who wasn’t a person among us “out here in the world” in the tax year of 2005. The IRS uses a calendar 12 month, January 1-December 31.

I’m not saying whether thats fair ir not. Just the way it is. I wonder has anyone trued to get a ruling in a USA court. I’m not making a judgement just an observation of USA rules, laws and decisions.

“Represent”? Yes, to some degree. What Roe v. Wade was really about (the so-called “right-to-privacy issue” is something that only politicians trying to confuse the issue and legal ignoramuses care about) was just that sort of thing – did the Law regard a fetus as a person? This is one of many instances in which it does not.