What patch of land has changed possession the most throughout history?

[QUOTE=Colibri]
Do not play naive with me, Ripper. Both you know and I know that the only reason you brought that up was to get a rise out of Bosda or some other poster.
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Brought what up, an accepted name for a particular plot of land? Hold on, you don’t happen to be associated with Columbia University are you?

[QUOTE=Colibri]
Since your suspension was in part for unnecessary political posts in GQ
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Can you elaborate on this? I thought I was suspended for not posting politically correct “gross” things, per the OP.

[QUOTE=Colibri]
You are on extremely thin ice. Drop the subject now.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator
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What subject are you referring to? You seem to have a hardon for me. Get over it and try and do your job without bias.

[QUOTE=Operation Ripper]
Brought what up, an accepted name for a particular plot of land? Hold on, you don’t happen to be associated with Columbia University are you?

Can you elaborate on this? I thought I was suspended for not posting politically correct “gross” things, per the OP.

What subject are you referring to? You seem to have a hardon for me. Get over it and try and do your job without bias.
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Moderator Warning

I instructed you to drop this subject here. As you well know, discussion of moderation actions is restricted to the Pit.

Your continued posting privileges will be under discussion by the administration.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

Do I have to start a Pit thread to simply ask what is so inflammatory about the name “Eretz-Yisra’el” that it gets someone a Warning on here? Seriously, 100% honest, and assuming that I don’t pay that much attention to the incessant Arab-Israeli conflicts of the last few hundred years (and I don’t), I have no clue as to why these words are Warn-worthy on this message board.

So can someone either explain it to me in the context of keeping it within a “GQ answer” as per forum Rules, or tell me to take it to the Pit?

[QUOTE=NurseCarmen]
I’ve heard that the Paris Hilton has been taken over by dozens of conquerers.
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From what I hear though, there is no patch there at all, so I don’t think she counts :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Una Persson]
Do I have to start a Pit thread to simply ask what is so inflammatory about the name “Eretz-Yisra’el” that it gets someone a Warning on here? Seriously, 100% honest, and assuming that I don’t pay that much attention to the incessant Arab-Israeli conflicts of the last few hundred years (and I don’t), I have no clue as to why these words are Warn-worthy on this message board.

So can someone either explain it to me in the context of keeping it within a “GQ answer” as per forum Rules, or tell me to take it to the Pit?
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Note that I specifically did not give an official warning to Operation Ripper for that remark. The reason I mentioned it at all was specifically because of Operation Ripper’s habit of making drive-by contentless posts merely to stir up trouble. The post had no real bearing on the OP. The use of Eretz-Israel vs Palestine is in part a political issue, and potentially could lead to a debate that I would prefer to keep out of this particular thread. In my opinion, based on past behavior, **Operation Ripper ** brought it up for exactly that reason, and so I cautioned him about it.

If my reasons aren’t clear, you are welcome to discuss it further in the Pit, or with me directly by e-mail.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

I just wondered if it was particularly inflammatory and if it was something that persons would avoid using in polite conversation (should it come up), but you’re saying instead it was being deliberately provocative in a political debating manner. Fair enough, I have no disagreement or further comment.

[QUOTE=Una Persson]
I just wondered if it was particularly inflammatory and if it was something that persons would avoid using in polite conversation (should it come up), but you’re saying instead it was being deliberately provocative in a political debating manner. Fair enough, I have no disagreement or further comment.
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For further clarification, I have no objection to anyone using either Israel or or Palestine in this thread with reference to that area, as long as the intention is not to stir up debate as to what the “correct” name for it is. My remarks were directed to **Operation Ripper’s ** behavior rather than the use of the name per se.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

[QUOTE=Siam Sam]
Northern Ireland is not between Egypt and Syria. Look at a map why doncha?
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Hey, Northern Ireland has good salmon fishing, turf fires, and several fine whiskeys I’ll have you know!

Edirne also called Adrianople (northwest of Istanbul) has the distinction of being the most fought over city in the world with 12 major sieges and countless battles near it. If we aren’t being specific, I’d be willing to guess just about any scrap of dirt that has had humans living in tribes for any extended period of time can lay claim to most fought over.

[QUOTE=An Gadaí]
Hey, Northern Ireland has good salmon fishing, turf fires, and several fine whiskeys I’ll have you know!
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Well, okay. But there’s still the two sides of morons. Gotcha there! :smiley:

[QUOTE=Siam Sam]

[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]
I mean that bloodsoaked plot of utterly, utterly useless land, between Egypt & Syria, that two bands of morons squabble over endlessly.
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Northern Ireland is not between Egypt and Syria. Look at a map why doncha?
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You get better oranges from Israel, that’s how you tell them apart. Although that description can lead into all sorts of political jokery in itself :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Una Persson]
Do I have to start a Pit thread to simply ask what is so inflammatory about the name “Eretz-Yisra’el” that it gets someone a Warning on here? Seriously, 100% honest, and assuming that I don’t pay that much attention to the incessant Arab-Israeli conflicts of the last few hundred years (and I don’t), I have no clue as to why these words are Warn-worthy on this message board.

So can someone either explain it to me in the context of keeping it within a “GQ answer” as per forum Rules, or tell me to take it to the Pit?
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In the spirit of GQ… the term “Eretz-Yisra’el” means “Greater Israel”, and usually refers to the biblical boundaries of ancient Israel (these boundaries are not represented by current political borders).

Because this area includes certain disputed territories - such as Palestine - it can be used to imply that certain land belongs by right to Israel, with overtones of “one day it’ll be ours again”.

Wow, didn’t know you could spell Manifest Destiny that way…

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[QUOTE=e-logic]
In the spirit of GQ… the term “Eretz-Yisra’el” means “Greater Israel”, and usually refers to the biblical boundaries of ancient Israel (these boundaries are not represented by current political borders).

Because this area includes certain disputed territories - such as Palestine - it can be used to imply that certain land belongs by right to Israel, with overtones of “one day it’ll be ours again”.
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Essentially correct, but one nit-pick: “Eretz-Yisra’el” simply means “the land of Israel”, and can be used in other senses.