Hey, I can quit any time I want.
my nephew was on a fentanyl patch because of the pain of having a trich in his throat and having cerebral palsy …
the place was a well-meaning dive our local hospital sent him to but my aunt took a months worth of training so he could get home
I could tell when the patch wore off because a sweet and lovable teenager (mentally he was about 9 or 10) became something indescribable …
finally the head of the UCLA med center breathing dept admitted him to specifically get him off of it when he went in for a tube clean out and pretty much made it her crusade to put the hospice that gave it to him out of business and told us we should have sued them straight to hell because no one under 18 should have it prescribed or should even think about using it … he was soo much happier without it and that was about 7-8 years ago …
The one time I tried cocaine I didn’t notice any effects on how I felt other than a racing heart. None the less, I have no desire to try it again and have no idea if maybe I tried a particularly weak batch. Marijuana and alcohol certainly had their intended effects, but I have no craving for either substance. This doesn’t mean that I don’t have an addictive personality, it’s just that the my addictions are in different areas including caffeine, food (carbs in particular) and video games.
I’ve never done recreational cocaine, nor have I ever had the opportunity to do so, but when I was in college, I worked with a guy who told the story many times about how he tried it once, and didn’t even like it all that much but knew, when it wore off and he had a huge urge to do it again, that this stuff was BAD NEWS and he needed to avoid it at all costs.
One of my college roommates, who in a past life had had some problems with it, was quite surprised when I told her that it’s used medicinally (not as much now as it was then) and that in that setting, it’s actually very safe.
That is exactly my experience. I came from drugs that mess with you head. Coke does not seem to do that (in my perception). It is compelling to do it, but the effect is a bit too subtle, and all it really seems to do is make you want to do more – especially when it wears off in 20 minutes, you feel like shit, and you know that the only thing that will stop you feeling like shit is more coke.
When I was coming up my rule of thumb was if it required use of a needle for me to get the drug into my body then I wouldn’t do it. Otherwise everything else was fair game.
I’m actually thankful that was late 70’s and early 80’s and not now. I’d probably be dead coming up in the current illicit drug scene.
Thank you Quadgop !!!
It took me a long time to understand it. There appears to be a combination of factors, some below:
- social aspects (your friends are doing it, so you do as well),
- in the case of alcohol, some of those drinks actually do taste good to many people; not everybody who drinks alcohol does so in order to get drunk, any more than people who eat chocolate do so in order to get fat.
- some people have difficulty finishing weird ideas. They get a weird idea but it’s “in the tip of their tongue”, they can’t wrap it up. Some of these people will take drugs hoping for a creativity boost.
- some take uppers looking for a boost to their concentration or their energy levels, or painkillers because they happen to be in pain (you can even take a painkiller which doesn’t do its job due to being the wrong kind, but which does hook you)
- and some have difficulty daring to do things they want to do, and take drugs as an artificial relaxant. Balls in a bottle, as it were.
That’s as for why to start; why to continue, well, if it feels good or you think you achieved whatever other goal you had, and if the goodness:cost apparent ratio is within acceptable values, you continue.
I love cannabis and partake most evenings. Periodically I’ll take a two week tolerance break which is also enjoyable. I like alcohol, and according to my doctor I’m in the “too much” category, yet I can go without and not suffer at all.
I like opiates and occasionally lose a day to them. I do not want more, though. Maybe once a year I’ll take some, much like mushrooms, LSD, ketamine, and the like. As much as I like these drugs, they are almost “too much”.
Cocaine I will not do again. Back in the day I really, really, really liked coke. Luckily I could not afford much back then, but a few times I’d splurge and buy an amount that I’d rationalize would last for awhile. I reasoned that I could do a bit every Friday and Saturday evening and I’d be set for months. Then I’d burn through it in a single weekend. I’m glad I gave it up, and I’m happier still that it’s not as readily available nowadays.
We need a bloodshot eyes smilie.
Jimsonweed. Really. Just don’t.
You’re welcome!
At least you will be when you lose the “u”. 
Qadgop
And feel free to PM me if you want more info/discussion on that specific topic.
BTW, I’m a Mercotan but that’s just one side of my family. The other side is pure Nederlander.
When I tried coke in my yoot, it made me feel like I could leap over tall mountains, outrun speeding bullets, dial telephones without using my hands. I knew right away that I had to stay away from it and I did.
Weed makes thought processes more interesting and food taste better. It’s just a pleasant little state of inebriation.
Yeah, PCP (Phencyclidine) is the one drug that I tried that made me think, “this is just evil”. I took it two times, once with pot and once by itself. It did give me the real physical experience of shrinking to just two feet tall while retaining all my horizontal dimensions. I spent a while in my friend’s front yard that night, pivoting at the ankles, knees and hips and back straight, placing my hands flat against the ground in front of me and in back of me, just amazed at having a height to width ratio of about two. I assume that a video recorded of me and viewed later would show that wasn’t at all what I was doing – but I have the memory of it. Who am I going to trust, my lying eyes, or…
But after my second experience of this, I just solidified around the view that it was evil, and I’d go to pretty great lengths to avoid ever taking it again.,
Like the man said: if you don’t partake, when you wake up in the morning? That’s as good as you’re going to feel all day.
I’ve abstained from illegal intoxicants since I became a parent at 29, nearly 30 years ago. I still drink. When marijuana becomes legal in NYS I may start keeping a little bit around to help me cut back on booze (weed and liquor together is really NO fun).
I’ve never taken opioids, except for a taste of opiated hashish in my college years, plus morphine during an emergency appendectomy five years ago. THAT felt so good I’m very glad I kept away, much the same attitude as several of us have expressed about coke.
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Never thought of putting it there.
It literally mimics schizophrenia. Not something that sounds like a good time to me.
I’d recommend not trying:
Chloroform. The high is short, the hangover is very long and it’s pretty toxic. And Chloroform breaks down in the presence of oxygen to more toxic chemicals, Phosgene and HCl.
Datura Stramonium (Jimson weed). Only do this if you enjoy feeling sick and deliriously hallucinating for 20 or more hours. Imagine being in a high fever and then taking acid. And feeling like you are going to throw up all the time.
Amanita Muscaria (the red toad stools with the white spots). As above, but only lasts 4 or so hours.
Smoking MDMA/Ecstacy. Just put it in your mouth, nose or bum like normal people do!
Then you must be doing it wrong. A shot of whiskey to chase a comestible will really knock you sideways. No, the combination to avoid is cannabis and acid. IME, they do opposite things and end up cancelling each other out.
Interesting, would that actually help come down from a bad trip? Or just make things worse in a different way?
I’ll add anabolic steroids to the mix. Absolutely nothing good can come from using them to “enhance” physique and/or athletic performance.