Hasn’t anybody ever come up with a harmless, pleasant recreational drug? Don’t say pot, though, because it sent me off my rocker, even if everyone else was fine (and laughing at me).
Go on. What’s the closest? Lowest death to happiness ratio?
Hasn’t anybody ever come up with a harmless, pleasant recreational drug? Don’t say pot, though, because it sent me off my rocker, even if everyone else was fine (and laughing at me).
Go on. What’s the closest? Lowest death to happiness ratio?
No links to websites in this thread, please. Just share your own experiences if you must, and don’t post your dealers phone number.
Specifically, the amount found in Diet Mountain Dew. Love it!
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With you on the Mountain Dew thing. I spent a month recklessly consuming Barr’s Irn Bru (a fizzy beverage considered Scotland’s other national drink (after whisky I guess)), and enjoying the buzz more than somewhat. Only thing is, after the 25th cup, caffeine gets really annoying. Especially if you’re fasting and therefore drinking coffee to placate your oral urge… same effect as speed, I believe, but without the club atmos…
Seriously, I believe this is every Chemists ultimate fantasy.
Fiction.
Several come to mind, but my favourite is a cocktail of theobromine, phenylethylamine, and tryptophan.
I must agree with elfkin447, as I read more than anyone on the face of the planet, 99.9% at least.
Mushrooms are fun in mild doses, and if you do overdose you’ll just puke and pass out. They are fun to grow, and growing kits arte available almost everywhere. They are non addictive and are very fun with a lover. It’s hard to have a bad trip on mushrooms.
Acid is a fun drug, as long as you don’t take too much. The bad side effects are that you sometimes get the sensation as if the drug is frying your brain away. It is cheap but you probably sleep most of the next day.
I hope the youth of American aren’t reading this right now, but in my limited experience I’d have to put a vote in for ecstasy. Just a half hit.
-taking notes-
Speaking for the Youth of America, ** Cranky**, I’ll keep that in mind.
Only a half?
-scribbles furiously-
Should I calculate body mass in there somewhere?
Sex.
Some of this sounds very interesting but obviously most is illegal. I’m interested either in legal modernday stuff (which works rather than costing £20) or interesting histories, like what the Romans got up to, etc. The main point, as Dr C.Fire pointed out, is to stay away from illegality. If I wanted that I could get it three hundred yards from my front door.
Not that I won’t be remembering what everyone’s said…
But ANYWAY [quickly returning to sobriety], I want to know what avoids bad trips. What doesn’t send you into a paranoid landscape. Where everything’s your mother. Etc.
I mean, how hard can it BE? If they put half as much effort into this as they put into drilling for oil… sheeeesh.
All of this, of course, should be read as ironic humour. Now go dig me up a wonderdrug.
I have to agree with Wishbone. Shrooms are harmless.
The thing with acid is you can’t do it all the time. It builds up in your spine and your body doesn’t expel it like it does eventually with other drugs. The good part about this is they can’t find it in a drug test unless they take a spinal tap. They can’t do a tap without your permission. You’ll never flunk another drug test.
I did alot of acid when I was younger. The only real side effects are these neat little flashbacks. I’ve had several. Nothing scary though. Mainly just things moving that you know aren’t moving. That’s my experience anyway.
Awww… I’m traditional, I guess. I’ll take booze anytime. Hasn’t harmed me yet, anyhow!
But you got to remember to eat once in awhile.
Don’t bother since the amount that is in a “hit” can vary wildly. From what I read ectasy is bad news for a chronic user (you lose brain cells resulting in reduced brain function) and ODs can be deadly.
While I don’t want to argue that X is not harmful, if taken in a ‘normal’ dosage, and it being pure MDMA there shouldn’t be any major side effects. The best way is to make sure you have taken vitamins a few days before you take it. Eat healthy and drink pleanty of OJ during the wig. If you do this, there shouldn’t be a problem and make sure you wait a couple of weeks before your next wig.
Since Coldfire will not allow links, I can’t place the cite for this, but it came from the US DOJ:
“An MDMA overdose is characterized by high blood pressure, faintness, panic attacks, and, in more severe cases, loss of consciousness, seizures, and a drastic rise in body temperature. MDMA overdoses can be fatal, as they may result in heart failure or extreme heat stroke.”
With normal use though some “users of the drug say that it produces profoundly positive feelings, empathy for others, elimination of anxiety, and extreme relaxation. MDMA is also said to suppress the need to eat, drink, or sleep, enabling users to endure two- to three-day parties. Consequently, MDMA use sometimes results in severe dehydration or exhaustion. While it is not as addictive as heroin or cocaine, MDMA can cause other adverse effects including nausea, hallucinations, chills, sweating, increases in body temperature, tremors, involuntary teeth clenching, muscle cramping, and blurred vision.”
I have experienced most of the above side affects, although no long term damage that I know of has happened. I am not a regular user at all, and my experience in somewhat limited. Before you do any drug (from X to nicotine) read up as much as possible on it. No one can stop you from doing it, so it pays to know as much as you can about what you are doing.
Well, since this is about the only topic I’m qualified to discuss, I’d better weigh in.
If you’re intent on removing pot (aww, damn, that’s my favorite…), the best recreational substance ever is opium. Nice tarry, brownish-black chocolatey-smelling stuff. I know what the Chinese saw in that stuff. Mmm…
Anyway, as far as non-illegal drugs go, the best ones to do can usually be found on ethnobotanical websites. Salvia is one option, but is an acquired taste. Blue lotus is another (it’s sorta opium-like, kinda), but there’s a reason nobody’s really used it for 1500 years. Surf those for your best bets, and a lot of your worst.
As far as uppers go, there aren’t many worth dealing with, legal or otherwise. As far as I’m concerned, if you like to get speedy to relax, you’re a crackhead. Ok, that’s a little harsh, but I don’t trust anyone who uses uppers recreationally.
As far as hallucenogens go, everything that’s been mentioned previously is fine, except for the illegality. The real action in the legal hallucenogen department is those substances too new or obscure to be noticed by the FDA. Many of these are pedestrian or produce effects that aren’t all that hot, but some are interesting. The only one I can think up offhand is “Foxy Methoxy”, 5-methoxy DIPT. I’m not sure if this has been criminalized yet, but it’ll be there eventually. Anyway, as far as illegal hallucenogens go, DMT’s where it’s at. Not for the faint of heart, though.
Oh, and as long as we’re on the subject of things that make your mind go pazang, try either nitrous or salvia (but only if you know what you’re doing, PLEASE) the next time you ingest your favorite vision-inducing substance. Daaaamn.
As for ways to avoid bad trips, well, you’ll hear a lot of different ideas from the unwashed (reeeealy unwashed, in this case) masses. However, the only two rules of thumb that have ever held water for me are these: first, bad trips are a positive-feedback loop based on negative feelings or thoughts. The best ways to prevent the feedback loop are either to avoid those negative thoughts altogether (by not taking a snootful of psychoactive drugs after a hard day or when you know you’re in a bad mood), or by learning ways to distract yourself from those thoughts while you’re tripping (this is usually gained via experience, but I have a few suggestions that I won’t elaborate on here). Second, have people available who you trust and who have experience dealing with psychoactives. Not only are they great ways to distract yourself (see above), they tend to be awfuly entertaining.
A final note: Please, if you aren’t 18+ or don’t have the maturity to practice responsible chemical ingestion, DON’T. If you don’t think you know your limits, you DON’T, and that’ll come back and bite you on the ass sooner or later. There are a lot of people who will be willing and happy to help you enjoy the drug of your choice in a safe, responsible fashion. You’ll have more fun that way, too. Trust me on this. I’m a professional.
M.
With ecstacy, whether you have a bad trip or not has nothing to do with your personality, physiological makeup, etc. You will always have a bad trip in way or another.
The come-down always feels like shit, every time. You feel like shit, the world isn’t a loving, mystical place anymore, and if you had some kind of wonderful bond with an e-buddy, that fades as well.
Unfortunately, I have done way too much e. I would take it all back if I could. It changes you, I can’t say exactly how, but trust me, I’ve had awful trips and mind-blowing,enlightening trips, but I feel like I have lost some of my human essence.
I’d leave it alone if I were you.
Other drugs I recommend you avoid:
Coke; sure, it makes you feel good, but it costs too much and will turn you into an instant crack fiend. You’ll do a line every twenty minutes until it’s gone. I promise. After a while you won’t even be doing it for the rush, its the taste you’ll be after.
Speed; again, it makes you feel good, but you’ll never sleep or eat. You’ll find yourself clenching your teeth at first and love the feel when it burns your nose. This drug will fuck up your personality more than you could ever imagine. Permanent Damage.
So I hope you learn from my mistakes, stick with the natural stuff; herb, mushrooms.
I’d just like to say that “shrooms” is a VERY inaccurate term used to describe various different mushrooms containing chemicals that can vary wildly.
I’ve taken relatively harmless shrooms, and I’ve taken the kind that makes you try to take your pants off over your head after a small dose.
I prefer the latter
— G. Raven
I always found it safe to follow comedian Marc Maron’s formula in re: drugs: “Plant family good. Powder family bad.”