I’m just curious if this is some of tom’s bias or whatever, but:
took me by suprise, since I thought I’d been pretty even-handed in response to Elvis’s constant “You don’t know anything! Fuck! Fuck! FUCCCCCCCCCCCK!” commentary.
Is this tom’s way of squashing debate?
Elvis made a comment regarding Begin, asking if we could see someone like Begin ‘come forward’ again, and I wasn’t sure if it was supposed to be positive or negative. He then turned it into a “You don’t know anything, you peace-hater!” attack.
(Nevermind that Israel & Egypt relations are nothing like Israeli & PLO relationsfor a reason…but all I did was ask which era of Begin he was referring to.)
pee ess: Is misquoting against the rules? I never said anything about maps.
oops: Forgot to add what started it all:
I think the quotes that you have in the OP are debate, but tom’s post came after this little back and forth, which seems a lot like bickering to me. YMMV.
Not to speak for tom, but IMO the difference between debate and bickering is when you make your remarks personal and criticize the other poster rather than their argument.
I’m pretty opinionated on certain things, and foreign policy is one. But I really don’t try to make personal attacks because it detracts from the debate…the only thing I could really say (after explaining my confusion to his ambiguity) is, hey, sorry you don’t get what I’m saying. There was no you’re a big poopyhead about it.
It isn’t the first time tom has accused me of bickering…note that in my posts, I continued on with the actual debate while Elvis has continued to insult me wherever I post re: Israel.
So when someone makes a comment about a leader that spent his whole life in Israeli politics, it’s only natural to question which era of leadership someone is speaking about. (Begin was part of the so-called “Stern Gang” and the founder of Likud – something that Elvis is very much against.)
I’m* hardly* a right-winger. I just try to evaluate things as they are instead of how I want them to be. Israel is one of the few countries where foreign policy initiatives really do change with a new government. America is not like that.
I know there’s mod bias here on SD, but sometimes it’s too obvious.
As I’ve said before, it would be more truthful if Great Debates was renamed The Argument Sketch from Monty Python. It is rarely “Great” and no more frequently a “Debate.”
It’s a mod note. Official warnings have the word “warning” in them.
It’s a judgment call, but the general idea is that moderator notes are for things that are borderline and warnings are for things that are clearly against the rules.
Diogenes the Cynic said “Suck on that” after posting a cite he felt supported his argument. It’s childish and confrontational but slightly less crude than you’re suggesting.
