What should Marvel do next cinematically after Infinity War wraps up?

(I’ll wait for the inevitable threadshitter to to come in and say the best thing they could do is stop making movies…)

A number of the actors currently playing roles in the MCU are nearing the ends of their contracts, and it seems to me that once you do Infinity War it’s hard to top that in terms of Avengers-style movies.

So what would be their best strategy moving forward? More standalone hero films with a more mature theme, like Logan? More adaptations of classic comics storylines? Switch to a greater focus on the Netflix-style series? Just pick a different super team and do an Avengers Assembling type of buildup again?

Well, they’re already planning Avengers 4 for May of 2019 and Ant-Man and Wasp and Captain Marvel also come out after Infinity War so they don’t appear to share your conclusion that IW is going to be so huge they can’t come back from it.

I assumed you mean Avengers 4, not Infinity War. That will be the end of the current “phase.”

I see no reason to believe that “Avengers” will end, it will just be a changing group. We’ve got a number of new heroes with only one movie under their belt so far:
Ant-Man
Doctor Strange
Spider-Man
Captain Marvel

And if Disney get’s the rights to Fox’s Marvel characters, all bets are off.

IIRC, Avengers 4 is supposed to be a “Part 2” of Infinity War. At least it was originally planned that way.

They’re supposed to be two distinct movies now (as opposed to say the end of the “Harry Potter” series), but still be closely linked. As to how, I don’t think that will be made clear until after Infinity War comes up and the title of the next one is revealed.

Start the Ultimate Marvel Cinematic Universe?

I’m waiting to see if they ever get around to Alpha Flight.

Given economic realities, I think they’ll do more team-up movies like Thor Ragnarok.

I’m trying to think of which characters get to play in the MCU that we haven’t already seen yet. Cloak & Dagger? They’ve got a TV series starting in June. She-Hulk, maybe? Or Dazzler? She’s a mutant, but she had The Claw as one of her villains so she may be able to get grafted into the MCU. I could also go for a backstory movie about Black Widow & Hawkeye, detailing the events in Budapest.

Squirrel Girl. Definitely Squirrel Girl.

I think they’ll go cosmic. The Kree-Skrull war.

And if they get the Fox rights back, we’ll see a build up of the Fantastic Four. Marvel will want to prove it can be done right.

Iron Man 23: So Very Tired

Still hopin’ they’ll greenlight the Forbush Man feature…

Bring on the Beyonder-Secret Wars!

id pay to see that as long as they kept it somewhat light …

After the success of Black Panther, I’d look for them to do other stand alone films for lesser known characters.

Already happening.

There is certainly a lot of potential to do something with the Kree. Although Agents of SHIELD is barely canon at this point, it did establish that the Kree have a history on Earth, and Captain Marvel makes their influence important in the MCU. Guardians of the Galaxy established them as a force to be reckoned with in Guardians of the Galaxy, and it is very clear with the success of both Guardians films and Thor:Ragnarok, as well as the Avengers conflict with Thanos coming to a head that the future of the MCU is beyond Earth orbit, and possibly beyond space and time.

Frankly, if Marvel Studios can continue to produce movies as inventive and textured as Ragnarok, Guardians, and Black Panther, there is no reason they can’t go on indefinitely as essentially a post-human space opera with fantastical mystical elements from Dr. Strange. One thing that has largely distinguished the MCU offerings from DC and other attempts as superhero franchises such as the uneven X-Men films is that they have allowed each film to have a unique character and ultimately draw from multiple genres such that it isn’t just a collection of superpowered people fighting CGI villains, and even if the film ends in a cliched CGI fight scene with characters fisticuffing one another hundreds of feet in the air while a blue beam shoots into the clouds, there are enough relatable motivations to make the film seem to matter beyond the scope of the plot. DECU films, by contrast, seem to exist purely to fill three acts with mindless and often terrible-looking CGI.

The real conflict in most of the MCU films isn’t the heroes versus some generic bad guy, but conflict within the protagonists themselves. Black Panther ostensibly didn’t even have a real villain in any traditional sense; while Killmonger did some terrible things, he had a solid reason for wanting to control the power of Wakanda even beyond his desire for vengence. Similarly, Spiderman: Homecoming had a bad guy who was created by the indifference of the supposed heroes of the Battle for New York to their impact on the working guy trying to make a living. If the MCU has a genuine master villain (aside from Thanos, who is genuinely “100% a dick”), it is Tony Stark who doesn’t seem to care that every time he solves a problem he creates a bigger one. I could see a film where Stark finally has to come to terms with what an absolute destructive shit he is to everyone around him and goes away. And if Marvel has done nothing else, they have cultivated the art of taking little known, third tier characters, casting unlikely actors as action heroes, and crafting engaging stories around them that are wildly successful beyond any reasonable expectation. At this point, they can retire off the original Avengers once the Thanos storyline goes away and have a broad enough cast to continue doing individual and team movies with different combinations while drawing from their giant vault of secondary characters.

There is already a perfect Fantastic Four film; it’s called The Incredibles and there is no reason to try to reboot it in any other format. The biggest problem with the Fantastic Four is that the origin story is basically nonsensical, the characters are kind of dumb (especially Sue Storm), and it is really tough to care about a guy who is basically the rock monster from Galaxy Quest. Brad Bird fixed all of these problems by ignoring any origin of how the “Specials” get their power or gadgets and adjusted the allocation of powers to fit an actual family dynamic. The only way to make it better is to make a sequel that is comparable to the first one (fingers crossed) so Marvel should just leave well enough alone and stick to making films about Asgardian ‘gods’, mad scientists run amok, cybernetically-enhanced psychotic raccoons, and what happens when Hulk enters the Quantum Realm and has to fight with a rogue Titan who is the size of a neutron.

BTW, I think trying to merge or reboot the X-Men into the MCU is problematic, not so much for origin reasons per se (although it would beg the question of why mutants were not previously known) but because the X-Men are their own brand of world-altering special with a particular dynamic between Professor X and Magneto, while the MCU has established a much larger milieu. Bringing in Spider-Man worked well enough (even though it was essentially tacked on to Civil War) as they took pains to avoid retelling the well-tread origin story and distinguish the MCU Spider-Man from previous versions. (“You know, I’m having a hard time believing she’s someone’s aunt.” “We come in all shapes and sizes, you know.”) But there isn’t a pressing reason to introduce a giant new conflict and collection of characters that has already been exhaustively presented, revised, retro-imagined, time-jumped, killed off, and returned to die again in shockingly terrible ways. It would be like trying to merge the Bond, Bourne, and Austin Powers franchises; discordant and overtread into self-parody, regardless of what you think of the individual series.

Stranger

That’s what I was gonna say! :wink:

Well stated, Stranger. And yes, I generally agree that Marvel has shown what they can do and can keep doing it with an evolving set of characters and actors. I suppose a bigger question is: if they keep building out the MCU, will they also continue to target having single gather-up movies? It feels like they’d collapse under their own weight, and the “Big Event”-ness would really wear out its welcome.

As mentioned, Black Panther and Doctor Strange will likely get a couple more movies, Ant-Man and GotG should each get at least one more, and Spider-Man has a couple more solos in the offing. Then Captain Marvel and there’s still talk of Black Widow getting a trilogy. That’s 14 more on the roster, plus the next Avengers film.

I realize it’s ‘Marvel’ so this doesn’t really quite fit - but given that they likely get a blank check for any project they want to do - I would LOVE to see them do Amber.

They already have plans for like three more years. Captain Marvel is going to be their first female leading character, Black Panther and Doctor Strange are certain to get sequels and probably trilogies. After that? we might get X-Men and F4 possibly?