What should the US do about Venezuela?

I don’t think there’s anything the US can do. They can’t force an election, or if they did, they can’t ensure Maduro loses.

The candidates:

Nicolás Maduro, Henri Falcón and Javier Bertucci. Maduro won the election with 67.8% of the vote, but is widely believed to have cheated.

Maduro was rejected by the National Assembly in favor of Juan Guaidó, the president of the National Assembly, who hadn’t run for president of Venezuela, but this is allowed under the constitution created by the elected dictator Hugo Chávez, who could have been pushed out by his own law. This was rejected by the pro-Maduro Supreme Tribunal of Justice, which said the National Assembly’s declaration was unconstitutional. Should we all agree with Chávez’s laws?

There’s no clear answer to this. Venezuela has simply become another dictatorship with fake elections.

What should it do?

Interesting because it depends upon whom it sees as being involved and their motives.

The U.S will act in what it perceives as its own interests, and if local populations suffer, well the U.S will just decide this is collateral damage, just as it has always done, and precisely what Russia does even more ruthlessly

You changed the goal posts. I wasn’t responding to ‘countries where the US’ has or hasn’t ‘interred’. I was responding to ‘America brings ruin to everything it touches’. You might want to think about your ‘jingoistic world view’ assertion in light of what I was actually responding to, and perhaps consider I wasn’t giving an exhaustive list, but merely pointing to a few things that contradict that statement.

I’m sure the Venezuelans will be comforted to know that while our plan was poor and we executed the plan poorly and the result was a disaster, that our intentions were good.

Why would they be comforted by that?

No, it doesn’t. But in this specific case, your b choice is definitely out, and I doubt any of the actors that would or could make a difference would allow or want us to be even a secondary assistant. In fact, no one would want the US on their team wrt this situation we are talking about. You seem to be talking in generalities, and I’m talking about the specifics of this thread.

We really need a sarcasm flag for posts here.

We have several smilies that would do the job, including rolleyes, headslap, and winky, but that post was so obviously sarcastic I don’t think any were really needed.

Oh, sorry:

Why would they be comforted by that? :rolleyes::smack::wink:

So why did you even mention intention?

I’ve lost track of what you are asking me.

Fair enough. I wasn’t really expecting much of an answer.:wink:

:smack::smack::smack:

:slight_smile:

According to the news today, VP Pence announced that they are sanctioning oil sales from Venezuela to Cuba. Which has the effect of the various oil tankers turning off their transponders when in Venezuelan ports.

It is spooking the tanker world since no one wants their ship impounded in a western port somewhere. I am not in the business myself so I don’t understand how it works, but it seems to me that in a few months it would be a great time to buy used tankers and reflag them in another convenient country.