Because it’s a standard lie.
“I’m totally a Democrat and left winger, it’s merely a coincidence that everything I say sounds exactly like what a right winger would say.”
Nonsense; they’re malignant monsters. They are bigots who hurt people whenever they can, lie, cheat and steal whenever the opportunity occurs, and belong to the sort of churches who think charity is evil.
And you are simply another right wing scumball trying to pretend being something that they are not.
Really? You fooled me. You talk shit like you know fucking everything.
Right because Trump supporters are the salt of the earth and uniquely skilled at blue collar labor. And I’ve never known a democrat who gave a damn about serving the community. Selfish fucks, those libs. Any excuse to rabble rouse the cops. I’ll give my son a call and tell him to quit the US Navy and come home because the Trump supporters have it covered.
Hill sprints, chin-up sets, hanging ab work, shoulders and arms. You?
No doubt you’ll blend right in
I can’t blame myself for Trump because I didn’t vote for him. I blame those who did. I blame fellow libs plenty for how quickly they line up for a circular firing squad. I blame them for lacking the strength of their convictions to nominate Bernie and then for acting like a bunch of petulant children and whining about getting behind Biden. I blame liberals for falling in love instead of falling in line. What I don’t blame liberals for is having a sense of decency that extends beyond their immediate tribe and for always striving for a more just society.
I must have read a few dozen posts by that account’s writer, over a number of days, and never for an instant doubted that it’s a pro-Trump account.
There’s not a single sentence in any of those posts that would have been written by an actual Democrat.
…LOL. And people think that I’M the one about to “pop a gasket.”
If Trump wins again this year: and there is a very good chance that he will, it won’t be because of this nonsense you are posting here. It will be because of things like this:
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1270433009033007106
Trump isn’t “better than us.” And if he wins it won’t be because I posted something you disagreed with on an internet messageboard. Its because they will be lying, it will because they will cheat. More people oppose Trump than support him. But they’ve stacked the deck and you need to recognize that.
“You are going to lose”, not “We are going to lose”. You’re a Democrat. Yeah, right.
Chingon beat me to it. Guess I should’ve read the next page before responding.
I do wish that we could finally get to the bottom of the sentiment that claims that because Trump supporters have been called out for their various deplorable socially and intellectually regressive positions, this will somehow mean that more people will vote for Trump than for someone who supports more liberal positions.
It’s a laughable empty threat of, “I’m Warning You… if you’re not nicer to me, I’m going to vote extra hard for Trump!”
There are clearly ~63M voters who are almost certainly going to double down on Trumpism. We have to accept that. There is no evidence to suggest that number has grown and I don’t see how ridiculing Trump and his MAGAcult is going to motivate them more than they are already motivated.
Fortunately, there are many more voters who do not support Trumpism. Some of whom will stay home for various reasons. Including, no doubt, being cut out of the voting process due to deliberate right-wing election interference. So Trump may very well snatch another win, but not because liberals said mean things about Trump & MAGATS.
So yeah, let’s hear a good fucking explanation for why we should not be critical of Trump supporters, or come up with a better line of argument than the ‘poor, forgotten, salt of the earth, victims of liberalism’ bullshit.
Agreed.
It’s Trump’s voters who are a large part of the problem.
On that note, I think that part of the problem is that things like AM radio, Fox News, and other outlets have created an information bubble or ‘safe space’ for them. That’s certainly not to say that they would have been liberal otherwise, but I think part of Trump’s base has been energized by the normalization of wingnut ideas and conspiracy theories.
That’s why I have a problem with the Times decision to post Cotton’s op-ed. Not because I thought it presented Cotton in a positive light or that it might persuade his opposition (i.e. us). The problem is that the Times, which is widely regarded as one of the most recognizable and credible institutions in the free press, is now offering a venue for radical thought that should otherwise be dismissed out of hand. Merely posting authoritarian missives by the likes of Cotton takes fringe ideas and puts them into the mainstream.
Sometimes, even entertaining a debate is itself destructive. Debating whether we should extend civil rights protection is itself a harmful idea because proposing the debate itself encourages people to challenge the legitimacy of that idea. It doesn’t matter whether a majority of people can counter and stand up to such challenges.
Encouraging law enforcement agencies and the military to act as a suppressive force against people exercising the most basic of civil liberties is inevitably encouraging some people to question whether those liberties should exist. If my crazy uncle wants to type in all caps on Facebook that liberals should be locked up, that’s one thing. Printing it in the Times or the Washington Post or inviting someone to say the same on CNN is quite another.
The Times’ news staff get it - their publication should never be in that position.
So in one sentence, you say that Trump voters live in an information bubble (and you say that’s a bad thing) and then a few sentences later, you seem to want liberals to live in one as well?
Right. But let’s see what our fellow long time democrat,** Linty Fresh** has to say about his beleaguered Trump friends.
Point to where I said that I want liberals to live in an information bubble.
Biden’s going to win, and Democrats will probably retake the Senate. Which is awesome.
That’s totally beside the point of whether the staff revolt at the NYT was a good thing (it wasn’t) or whether management should have caved and sacked Bennet (they definitely should not have). It’s not wrong because it will lose us the election (it won’t), it’s wrong because it’s wrong.
ETA: And I’m canceling my NYT subscription as soon as I can figure out how to do so in a way that ensures they know *why *I am canceling.
Personally, I think they were right to fire Bennet (or he was right to resign, whichever it was). He admitted or claimed after the uproar started that he never read the OpEd piece in question and that’s bullshit; I think the opinion page editor should have read every OpEd that’s slated to run, and probably a good chunk of the rejects.
Here’s my interaction with the “Customer Care Representative”, by the name of “Raymel”, just now. Raymel’s side of the conversation is in bold.
Sigh. :smack:
So you lied and told him you were a “Democrat”?
That’s not a lie, you shit-for-brains.
Oh sorry. I thought you were a Republican.
Sooo…I advocated for the nomination of moderate, electable Democrats in the presidential primaries over the span of nearly six thousand Daily Kos comments in 2003, 2007, and 2015, because…why, exactly? What’s the secret-Republican angle there? :dubious:
It’s not enough to react to my posts with “I’m a Democrat, and I don’t like what **SlackerInc **has to say, so I refuse to believe he’s a Democrat too”. You have to have some kind of plausible motive for this alleged longterm “deep cover” operation. What you are engaging in is the polar opposite of Occam’s Razor, which would tell you that I’m quite obviously just a Democrat you don’t like. Why that’s so hard for you to grasp, I can’t say.
Hey! If you need some businesses torched or stores looted these are your guys and gals! That 65” tv isn’t going to carry itself.
If that were true, and you know it’s not, how is it that there are any on the left left?
The NYT’s Ben Smith was remarkably candid in his interview on the Slate Gist podcast today. He said that the reason black employees stated that they were endangered by the Cotton op-ed was because the union advised them that they could not get in trouble for expressing concerns about a workplace safety issue, whereas a general political complaint would be against The New York Times code of conduct for social media.
He also said that readers these days cannot really tell the difference between straight news articles and stuff from the Opinion section, which is news to me; and that unlike the old model when they were a mass publication where they had to keep advertisers happy by covering the spectrum of political opinion for everyone in a news market, these days the predominant priority in terms of their bottom line is to not piss off too many of their subscribers. That makes sense but I find it profoundly sad.