No, no this one is a little better.
Grayson would be better than Trump. But if he was polling above 20% in a Presidential primary, I’d want to take a close look at him. If I concluded that he was wholly unsuitable for the Presidency (not implausible)… I’d have a challenging time if he were eventually nominated. Ditto for Ralph Nader (on Parallel Earth).
Grayson could be better than Trump, but we’re assuming normal Republican nominee here, like McCain or Romney.
There will come a time when Democrats will have to either hold their nose and vote for a corrupt or nutty nominee over a quite reasonable and mainstream Republican.
Normal for a Republican is what a solid majority of Republican voters say it is.
Welcome to your new normal.
Name one.
That’s what a lot of Republicans are thinking right now. It’s delusional. 90% of what a President does has nothing to do with left or right. If you elect a less competent, less honest, weaker leader because you agree more with his views, you’re putting party over country. You’re saying you don’t care if our military is well led, don’t care if VA works, don’t care if FEMA responds appropriately to natural disasters, don’t care if the laws are faithfully executed. All that can suffer so you can get a better Supreme Court Justice.
Well the real problem is that the Republican Senate and House are nuts. That’s why it would be difficult for me to vote for Kasich or Romney. If we had the Republican legislature of the 1970s or even 1980s I’d feel differently.
I agree those days will come again. But for now the professional class is trending firmly Democratic.
They’ll prop his ass up like ‘Weekend at Bernie’s.’
Maybe, but it’s not going to happen in the next three weeks, so what’s it got to do with this thread?
And the loyalists will marvel at how much more presidential he seems.
Here in our reality, 100% of what a President does is ideological just because he or she belongs to a party. Every position filled inside the executive branch, every appointment to the judicial branch, every dollar raised for the legislative branch. Every bill, every presidential order, every treaty. Every meeting with a foreign leader, every meeting with Congress, every meeting with lobbyists, every encounter with subject experts, even every appearance with ordinary citizens. Would a Republican bring the Muslim boy falsely accused of building a bomb instead of a clock to the White House?
In an increasingly politically polarized country, it is delusional to think any individual President can take any action that is unrelated to party. Republicans, I hardly need to say - except to force it through your wall of denial - have been saying exactly this for decades at all levels of government. They have embraced bigots, haters, loons, charlatans, and airheads with chinooks rattling through the empty spaces within their crania with enthusiasm as long as they embraced the R. If Democrats have listened to them, you can hardly blame the Democrats for the notion. Well, you can and will. But certainly nobody capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time will respond with anything but a horse laugh.
I honestly wonder what your point is. I find Kasich to be much too right-wing for the interests of America. I’ll guess you find Grayson too left-wing. Is that right so far? Do your posts mean anything more than “I want everybody to vote for right-wingers”?
But set aside that and consider the actual GOP nominee. Do you think having Trump as President is good for country? If not, do you think it is the Democrat establishment instead of the GOP establishment that is supporting Trump?
I swear, sometimes it almost seems that you construct rational paragraphs and then, as some bizarre aberration, at the last moment you swap all instances of the word “Democrat” for “Republican” and vice versa. Is that it?
I’m not sure of the value per droplet, but he sure is splattering that shit everywhere, huh? 
Aye, there’s the Drumpf…
Meh, better he implodes than explodes.
America would Never get that damn hair out of its carpet…
And he’s welcome to it!
(Quit messing with the deal…! We’ve almost got him convinced ‘Baltimore’ is High French for, “I’ll have seconds, please!”)
This needs to be added to the last post:
The New York Daily News comes with another brutal cover with Ryan And Trump:
“I’M WITH RACIST!”
As I said, Trump will not leave because of this debacle, and more than a few Republicans will like their bigotry; but as I said, it looks like an implosion to just the majority of the voters and in the end that is what it counts.
Grayson has ethical problems,and is temperamentally completely unfit. The primary interest of America when selecting a President is someone who can do the job. Issue stances can come into play when both candidates are well qualified. When one is clearly superior or one is clearly not fit, then issues don’t mean a thing. You’re courting disaster for the sake of a few policy wins, and even those are unlikely due to incompetence. Would you consider the Bush years to be a time of advances for conservatism? We got a tax cut and… chronic cockups.
I’d argue that to have his career path you have to be delusional. He is utterly convinced he’s the greatest businessman in the world and “always wins”. The actual secret to his success is inheriting $100 million of NY real estate in the 1980’s, just before a long lasting bubble. And his fathers name was already famous in NY real estate, so he had the fortune and a reputation. Anyone with a shred of self awareness would realise that was 95% of his success.
His whole shtick has been trying to convince ordinary working shmo’s that they can replicate his success if they learn his secrets, WITHOUT having $100 million to start with. Anyone that genuinely believes in their own genius in such circumstances is delusional certainly, whether mild or severe is the only matter for debate.
His campaign methods and a spectacular loss in the general may tarnish his brand, but I think the real problem for him is going to come from the tremendous scrutiny he is now getting and will continue to get. He has now been justifiably called an outright fraud on national television because of the Trump U scandal, and several calls by city councilors for Trump projects to be renamed after his racist rants have helped publicize the fact that those projects are largely frauds, too – they not only claim false association with Trump while just being licensing deals, these deals have also been revealed to be creating projects that are spectacularly bad investments, with some individual condo buyers now unable to unload their holdings for even half of what they paid. With his casino failures, his airline failure, even his “Trump steak” failure, one gets the impression that everything he touches turns to shit. His election failure will round this out nicely.
Quoted for optimism. This outcome sounds likely, and a reasonable person would expect it.
And but then yet let’s not forget that Trump’s appeal has less to do with any successful business enterprises than the fact that he is a Business Guy who wants to get rid of all the Mexicans and Muslims.
I have to think it will melt down any time. It will be spectacular. But the timing will be nail-bitingly close.
OK. So discuss Trump’s qualifications for the job; do a Google search to remind yourself which party’s establishment is now supporting Trump; reread the** adaher** post that we’re all laughing at; and admit that you interchanged Democrat and Republican in that sentence.
(I won’t hold my breath.)
Anyone have the remotest clue what Drumpf is talking about here with the “no PP” business?
Maybe it’s Trump’s mangled way of saying he’s opposed to TPP as well as Planned Parenthood