I live in New York and I already have that awful New Yorker’s view of the world, so what would be different, really? 
I’m from MA and pretty tied to the area. I’d stay and advocate for taking the rest of New England with us.
I wouldn’t move from California. But then I have relatives in other states and could relocate later if necessary.
Considering how many people retire from California and then move somewhere else with a lower cost of living, spending their retirement money there, I have a hard time imagining that the US would be beating Californians away with a stick.
I would move to Texas. (from California)
Or maybe Florida.
I think I would stay in Michigan and try to become president. I think we have a good defense with all the lakes.
I’m in Texas. I’d move before it even became ratified.
I’m torn on this one. On the one hand I am not to thrilled with the way the US is going at the moment and I love NY so I would be thrilled to stick around but on the other hand I have no idea how NY would govern themselves as a country and I would be leery of that sort of thing. I might take the opportunity to try and immigrate to another country that seemed like a better fit for myself and my family but otherwise I think I’d have to stick it out in NY. At least then I wouldn’t need to worry about the threat of shudder President Perry.
Bye bye Minnesota. Hello South Dakota.
I find this amusing since you’re the one who’s compared the CSA to Nazi Germany.
But anyways I would seek to rouse the US for total war to crush the rebellion much as has been to the Rebs a century and a half ago. Stars & Stripes forever!
Wait, is California treating human beings as property in this exercise? Are they placing people in labor camps, mistreating gays and jews? Why is that amusing?
California has a huge economy; it could easily be a nation on its own given its tremendous resources. Do you disagree with that?
See, to Qin, the defining charactetistic of the CSA which really damns it isn’t the fact that it denied autonomy to humans and treated them merely as means; it’s the fact that, by seceding, it wasn’t patriotic.
That’s why Qin thinks the analogy between the CSA and a seceding California works and why he thinks Der Trihs is contradicting himself. It doesn’t occur to Qin that the seceding element is far, far behind the slavery element.
I was talking about the CSA really not the Nazis (after all the CSA secretary of State was Jewish) and I found it amusing because he seems to support secession in this case.
It can survive as a country, but whether it is good is another question-for one it will severely weaken American power especially in the Pacific and thus proportionally benefit the enemies of freedom especially China.
I’d have to leave; Oregon simply isn’t a very big player in my industry, and I’d be sharply limiting my future employment options by staying. If I stayed, then I might be stuck on the low rungs of my company (by far the best one in the state) for a very long time, rather than being able to bounce around a little.
Option 2: I’m in a long-distance relationship with a Californian. Can people get dual-citizenship by marriage in this hypothetical?
I skewing your resultses! 
Alberta is the best part of Canada; I’ll be sticking.
It was not as if the US was fanatically abolitionist anyways. Slavery died so early thanks to the war. Without it, slavery would have been abolished somewhat later albeit peacefully.
Much as I enjoy living in Tennessee, I’d book.
In the event of secession, the current politics in Tennessee would economically crush most of us who work for a living. We already have had nutjobs in state legislature who’ve proposed printing our own currency. :rolleyes: A good share of our government would go totally Tea Party and abolish minimum wage, safety regulations and other safeguards to workers. State religion (Evangelical Christianity) would ensue.
No thanks. I’d head for warmer, saner climes.
I have no confidence in California’s state or local governments, and I have no family in this state. I’d bug out.
Unlikely even in Tenessee such groups would get outvoted-it is the state of ultra-environmentalist Al Gore after all.
I still don’t understand how you can compare a (hypothetical) Californian secession to the CSA. I also didn’t see where Der Trihs seemed to support secession. Was it because he correctly noted California’s particular economic strengths? Or was it the part where he noted no great love for the U.S.? Is it possible to have more appreciation for your own state than your federal government? Most people on the right seem to. Frankly, your comment appears to be nothing more than a lousy potshot.
The OP wasn’t asking if we thought our state *should *succeed, only if we would stay if it did. California is probably the only, or at least one of the very few, that could survive independent of the rest of the U.S. I think that’s what Der Trihs was simply noting. For most other states, independent secession would be suicide and a punchline for the rest of the country.
Ambassadors? Negotiation? Those are all privately held commercial entities. They can let in whomever they want. There would be no reason for any diplomatic negotiations.