Nevada would have absolutely no chance to succeed on its own. I’d get out of here fast as my little Ford could drive me.
If Cascadia or Ecotopia formed, I’d be very interested in becoming a citizen.
Joe Haldeman had Nevada seceding and becoming a radical libertarian country in his Worlds trilogy.
You mean like how the federal government fast-tracked some people’s citizenship so they could vote no in the referendum?
Anyway, I wasn’t intending to post in this thread because it was specified as being for Americans (and I assume the same is true for MichaelEmouse), but since someone broke the ice: if Quebec ever separates from Canada (which I don’t believe will ever happen), I’m staying here. I could see myself moving elsewhere for job reasons, at least temporarily, but not for political reasons. Quebec is my home, and nowhere else in the world could I truly be at home.
Say what? I condemn the Confederacy because they were created and existed to defend slavery. Their defense of and practice of slavery is what makes them as bad or worse than the Nazis. So unless California was seceding so it could do something like turn brown people into Soylent Green there’s no comparison.
America is just as much an “enemy of freedom” as China. Both countries are out for their self interest above all; outside their respective borders America isn’t pro-freedom, and China isn’t pro-authoritarian.
It would depend on the reason for secession, wouldn’t it?
If my state seceded (again) on behalf of slavery (I guess they’d be re-instating it in this case) I’d leave.
If the reason for secession was some higher moral purpose, it would depend.
Slavery was an unambiguous evil that forever taints the memory of the Confederacy. That said, and allowing for the absurdity of ranking unambiguous evils, I’d say the Nazis were worse on two material counts:
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[li]Nazism was established for the purpose of killing weaker neighbors and taking their stuff (see “lebensraum” in Mein Kampf)[/li]
[li]The Confederacy’s avowed policy was to stand on the defensive and not initiate invasions. That changed, due to the exigency of war, but that was the initial plan (if we ignore the fairly hypocritical seizure of arsenals, arms, port facilities, forts, and other Federal property.)[/li][/ul]
and
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[li]The Nazis enslaved entire ethnicities (or tried to) with the specific intent of working them to death or working them to uselessness and then killing them.[/li]
[li]The Confederacy enslaved an entire ethnicity and, while certainly not above killing individual slaves, did not set about exterminating their kind.[/li][/ul]
I admit it’s only a degree of difference, but it’s real.