As for where the questions came from my wife found them on an ex-pats website. As with all things internet related I guess it should have been taken with a larger pinch of salt.
Not sure which website, will ask when I get home and post again tomorrow.
If the United Kingdom to Canada transition is anything like the South Africa to United States transition, the pie thing is actually quite sad.
Pies mean dessert here in the United States. People think of apple pies and pecan pies and all sort of sweet pies. I haven’t yet had a heavy steak and gravy with a flaky crust pie, and I do miss them. That is a standard supermarket deli item in South Africa and makes an awesome lunch.
I’ll warn you against trying the Swanson meat pies right now - I’m not sure how much motor oil they put in them, but I’m sure it’s more than the legally-allowed amount. If you like grey, gristly meat, though, you might like them.
I love HP sauce (or I guess as the Brits call it, brown sauce). Heinz salad cream is common, too. You can also get marmite pretty easily, too, though I definitely don’t have a taste for that.
Never. No pecking order here. The only pecking order I know of is if you end up in the hospital, then only the severity of your wounds determines your pecking order on how quickly you get seen.
Yes we have English teas. I prefer Earl Gray myself, served hot with milk/cream your choice. It may or may not be what your used to though.
We have a variety of different beans. You should try beans with maple syrup.
I know your big on Meat Pies in the UK, we have a Québécois/French meat pie called a Tortierres beef/pork/potatoes spices. I also make a wicked salmon pie.
The only time where I can see this being a problem would be at sporting events, my bosses wife was from the U.S. and at a hockey game she brought her little U.S. flag to wave for her beloved Chicago Blackhawks, apparently she got some strange looks. But since the UK has yet to field a team in the NHL I doubt this will ever be a problem for you. Some sports fans tend to be a little nuts anyways.
Other than that, if your just making a positive commment about your country of origin, you wouldn’t get any dirty looks. Although if after awhile after living here and you don’t like Canada you should probably keep those comments to yourself, because your going to get the “well move back to the UK” response.
You can probably google for UK x-pats living in Canada forums, I’m sure there out there.
Here’s some suggestions on places to live, if your not bilingual meaning speaking english and french. Don’t live in Québec. If your thinking of moving to the National Capital Region ,Ottawa is a government town most of the well paying jobs require bilingualism as a skill. That’s not to say they’re aren’t other well paying jobs, depending on your skill set though it’s something to consider.
Alot of Brits choose Ontario or westwards for places to settle. Alberta is booming right now with the oil industry. British Columbia is beautiful but can be expensive to live their it’s a wet province though so it may make you feel at home with the added Canadian Rockies of course.
Good luck mate !
I saw some video of her singing in Creole, after the earthquake. I wish I could find it again (anyone?), it was so moving. Also, she ate a seal heart once like it was no thing.
Allow me the most nuanced and informed answer to this question:
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Dude, OUR HEAD OF STATE IS ENGLISH.
As to the rest… like, you’re just fooling around, right? I mean, you don’t actually think there is a civilized country in the world you can’t get tea?
The funny part is that the people who’re telling you Chinese are higher on the pecking order here are also saying there’s no tea. Darned strange people so high on the pecking order wouldn’t think to bring some of their most favourite drink.
I’m an immigrant to Canuckistan from the Elephant to the South, the US of A. I’ve lived in Newfoundland and BC, and spent a hell of a lot of time in Quebec, so here’s my input.
Pecking order: Not really, unless you’re native / first nations, in which case it can suck. Otherwise, there are ethnic stereotypes, but no real pecking order as such. In Newfoundland Newfoundlanders are God’s chosen people, but they’ll cut you a lot of slack for having moved there, since it means you’re one of the sensible ones. In Victoria BC, England is considered the centre of the cosmos, and they’re more English than the English.
You can’t get tea
Ha!. Again, I’ve lived at the two ends of the country, and you can certainly get tea. Especially on the Rock (Newfoundland). Ms. Attack drinks tea second only to AttackMum, who’s from Oz, and swills it by the bucket. Trust me, you can get a cuppa.
3. You cannot buy Heinz baked beans or anything similar, apparently Canadian beans are overcooked and contain lumps of pork fat.
Don’t eat this stuff. Sorry.
Bread and pies are completely different to those in the UK.
Don’t eat UK pies or bread. Sorry.
You are frowned upon if you make any kind of positive remark about your country of origin.
Hard to say. I slam the states a lot, as has been noticed on these boards. That said, I’ve rarely gotten a hard time about my ethnic origin.
I’ve never had the least trouble getting English Breakfast tea in supermarkets or restaurants, and I live in Quebec, by far the least tea-intensive part of the country. As others have said, whether it’s the same as what you’re used to is another question, but it’s definitely here.
The tea shop near my house sells a lovely loose leaf English Breakfast and many other wonderful varieties besides, and there should be at least one in any large city and several in a major city.
On a more general level, bear in mind the usual vocabulary/national sore spots issue, and also the fact that Canada is an extremely large place with cultural differences between each region and between rural and urban areas. I hope you enjoy yourselves and feel welcome!
Out of curiosity, what’s the motivation for this potential migration? I’m guessing it can’t be too compelling, or worries about tea and pie wouldn’t even enter the equation. Just looking for a change of pace? Itchy feet? What’s so wrong about Britain/appealing about Canada that you’re tempted to make the move?
(Not that Canada’s not a fine country to live in, I’m sure! Just wondering.)
If you’re lucky, you’ll run across a pub run by one or more expat Brits who know what a real meat pie is. Such a place was my local for a number of years, and it spoiled me for such UK favourites as meat pies and curries. IMHO, some of what’s available frozen at the supermarket or on the menu at chain pubs just isn’t right. Mum-'n-Dad-run British pubs like my old local are hard to find, but they’re out there if you look–and they know how to make a proper cup of tea, too.
There is no ethnic pecking order, and we don’t look down on people for making positive remarks about their country of origin. In fact, as Canadians we are very tolerant of all countries. We don’t think we’re better than them… unlike those other countries, who are not as tolerant, which is what makes us better than them.
I had to leave Canada for a few years and then move back in order to recognize this attitude, but it definitely exists.
To quote the Arrogant Worms, “We don’t think that we’re better, it’s just that we’re less worse.”
When I immigrated to Canada many years ago I was called a DP (remember DP ? Displaced Person). They just couldn’t stomach that I was better educated than they were. Note that I also met some very friendly people. Most of them.
I think Canada now is far different in regards to immigration than it was when I was younger (70’s & 80’s). I remember there was prejudice against Asians - eg.) Vietnamese and other Asians were refereed to as “Boat People”, and EVERYONE with brown skin regardless of where they came from were called “Pakis”. I even remember jokes about Polish and Ukrainian people, but from what I have heard from British people I have met in Canada - the UK was equally as racist in those days.
We’ve come a long way, but we still have further to go!
I still have older relatives who’s attitudes and vocabularies haven’t changed - but they are of an age where they won’t be around much longer, and very few people younger share those beliefs. Prejudice against the Natives is one area that is still a national shame, and from time to time small groups of racist skinheads or other racists appear.
As for the tea, what brand do you drink at home? My husband and his family are from England and they drink tea all day every day. They can not stand is Red Rose Brand, they say it is far too bitter. Mostly they drink Tetley tea by the gallon it seems. Going out to a restaurant, it is mostly bagged tea and frequently you have to ask them to put the bag in the pot before they put the water in - but they will bring you milk instead of cream by default.
Immigrating to Canada? You may want to read this thread.
Interesting. When I was in high school (1976 - 1981*), we spoke of the Vietnamese as Boat People, but that wasn’t an insult; a number of families had been sponsored in Whitby and the term was just an acknowledgement of what they’d been through to get here. Not an insult at all.
On the other hand, “paki” was down there with “nigger” at the bottom of the barrel for ultimate insults.
[sub]*We had five years of high school (fifth year optional). I wasn’t a dolt.[/sub]
Maybe it was living in small town Alberta (Lethbridge area, and Drumheller) that lead to the closemindedness I saw - and boat people was definitely used as a derogatory term here. Alberta has had the reputation of being very redneck, and by some of the things I have heard from older relatives mouths, the reputation was not far from the truth.