What's the difference between all the beauty pageants?

There’s Miss America, Miss USA, Miss World, Miss Universe, Miss International, Miss Earth, Miss Teen USA, and probably a bunch of others.

Can somebody explain to me which ones are considered the “originals” and which are the “rip-offs”? Which ones are considered the most prestigious and which are the most scandal-prone? Which ones are related to others? Which ones have the most famous entrants? Which rules are different between them? Have there ever been cross-competitions? And is there some organizing body behind all this that certifies beauty pageants?

I could be wrong, but I believe Miss America preceded the rest. They’re all rip-offs, though.

I don’t really care about the rest of it. It’s all based on arbitrary standards of beauty and dazzling fake smiles.

Miss America was started in 1921 as a bathing beauty pageant. It is certainly the oldest and probably the most classically prestigious of the contests. It has such famous winners as Lee Meriwether (original Catwoman), Vanessa Williams, Gretchen Carlson (news anchor), and so on. It’s seen today as something like faded glory; the wholesome image Miss America is known for is an anachronism, and the pageant’s attempts to get “with it” are failing miserably.

Miss USA was started in 1952 by Catalina Swimwear company when that year’s Miss America refused to make appearances in swimwear. Although it had a somewhat shaky beginning, it is now the stronger of the two pageants and the more commercially successful. The winners tend to be less lasting presences as far as fame goes, but during their reign, they are in the public eye far more than Miss Americas. Their promotion is very good, and Miss USA winners are seen as younger, more stylish, and more model-attractive than their Miss America counterparts.

Aside from the contestant calibre I’ve mentioned, the main difference between the two pageants is that Miss America contestants are required to perform a talent and have a charitable cause they support, while Miss USA contestants support the pageant’s selected charity and there is no talent portion to speak of. The age limits are also more strict within the Miss America system: you must be 17-24 compared with Universe’s 17-26.

Miss Universe is also an early-1950s Catalina Swimwear creation, and is the next step for Miss USA winners. All across the globe, countries send their representatives to this pageant where one emerges victorious. As with Miss USA, there are few notable winners, but many go on to be highly successful models. There is also no talent portion in the Miss Universe pageant.

Miss World, Earth, and International are pageants similar to Miss Universe, and are generally viewed from most to least prestigious in the order that I’ve listed them. They are usually the “runner-up” pageants to Miss Universe. For example, the winner of the Miss Spain contest will go on to compete at Miss Universe, her first runner-up will compete at Miss World, her second runner-up will compete at Miss Earth. Many countries, however, just send their winner to Miss Universe and let their World/Earth/International entrants do so on their own time.

As far as prestige and “rip-offs”, Miss America and its local pageants (Miss Clark County, Miss Nevada, etc) are the only ones of the listed pageants not to charge entry fees. I believe in Miss USA there is some way to circumvent the entry fee (like if you win a paid local), but there is a large amount of spending in any pageant - for the cost of gowns, hair, etc. Miss America is seen as being the most traditional and classic pageant in America, with Miss USA being the trendier, more glamorous contender that is quickly stealing America’s thunder. Internationally, Miss Universe is by far the most prestigious but the other pageants are respected.

The universal pageants always have scandals, always. And they are very highly publicized (whether or not in a PR move, I don’t know, but we do hear about them often). Miss America and its ilk have smaller scale scandals, nothing that generally rocks the nation and much of it is kept contained inside pageant circles.

I’m not sure what is meant by cross-competitions, but as for a governing body for pageants, there is none - all contests are legitimate as long as they are not infringing upon another’s copyright.

Forgot to mention the Teen pageants.

Miss Teen USA is the little sister pageant to Miss USA, and has been around since the 70s or 80s. It is basically the exact same thing as Miss USA, but with girls aged 13-18. Interestingly enough, all of Donald Trump’s pageant girls - Miss Universe, Miss USA, and Miss Teen USA - share an apartment in New York City through their reign.

Miss America has, within past year or two, introduced it’s America’s Outstanding Teen pageant. This is a Miss America-style teen pageant (less emphasis on sex, more emphasis on talent and achievement), but it is so new that it’s hard to say what - if any - prestige it carries. Miss Teen USA will probably stay the winner of the teen pageants, though.

Also, Indian actress Aishwarya Rai is a former Miss World, as is singer Chris de Burgh’s daughter, Rosanna Davison.

Thanks for the information.

Miss USA goes on to compete for Miss Universe. And the Miss USA runner-up goes on to compete for Miss World. But am I correct in understanding that Miss America is an ultimate title; she doesn’t go on to compete against other countries?

And one more question; to put this in crass material terms, how do the titles compare in terms of prizes won?

Who you have to sleep with in order to win.

I wonder if there is any kind of link between porn and pageants. That is, do a lot of pageant contestants go on to do softcore/hardcore porn modelling and acting?

Little Nemo, the Miss USA pageant is actually unique compared to all the other country pageants in that its runners-up go on to do nothing. If a girl wishes to represent USA at Miss World, Miss Earth, etc, she must contact the directors of those pageants and compete anew. The pageant system, as hard as it tries to be, is not very sophisticated and often ends up very confusing. Miss USA runners-up really never compete at the other pageants (at least not during their “reign”) because Miss USA frequently wins Miss Universe, and they must be there to step in to assume the title in case this happens. :slight_smile:

You’re correct that once a girl wins Miss America, it is the ultimate and there is no higher title to be won (as Miss America was established as an American pageant, unlike USA which was always intended to go to Universe). Once a girl competes in Miss America (even if she doesn’t place), she is finished with the America system for good and cannot compete again. The same is true at Miss Universe, USA and Teen USA, which is why many contestants from one system will switch over to the other after losing their eligibility (used to be generally from USA to America, but is now the opposite). I have never heard of a Miss America or Miss USA winning their title and then trying the other system, though.

In terms of prizes:

  • In addition to the scholarship monies and prizes she’ll have won on her local and state levels, Miss America wins a $50,000 scholarship (as well as several thousand more if she won preliminary competitions [for swimsuit, talent, etc]); a crown, crystal scepter, and trophy that are hers to keep; all travel expenses paid to make appearances and gets paid very well by appearance (if she’s booked well, she can pull in well into the six figures). There are other little things she gets, but I’m not sure of them.

  • Miss USA also receives money and prize packages on her local and state level (but it is cash, not a scholarship). When she wins the national title, she receives a very beautiful crown made of Mikimoto pearls (as Teen USA and Universe do, as well) that she must give back at the end of her reign. She gets a large cash prize, new car (or use of car for her reign), full use of a New York City apartment (with Teen USA and Universe), a year’s representation by Trump’s modelling agency, screen tests for Hollywood, all-expenses-paid appearances for which she receives payment (these are more numerous than Miss America’s these days), and the chance to compete at Miss Universe. USA also receives more trinkets like jewelry and cosmetics than America does, and is given an entirely new wardrobe.

  • Miss Universe receives what Miss USA does and then some - also a year’s tuition to a broadcasting/acting school in New York City, for example. This is a step up from the prize packages that the other countries give, and in the event Miss USA becomes Miss Universe, is looked at as kind of an extension to their USA prizes.

So, if competing for sheer prizes, I’d certainly rather win USA. There is more glamour carried with it, and you just win a lot more with less strings attached (don’t have to spend the money on school, get more appearances).

Madd Maxx, as much as this is portrayed in the media, it never really happens. :slight_smile: A Miss Universe judge a year or two back got fired for simply speaking with the contestants as they passed him in a lobby. Organizations take fraternization with the contestants very seriously, to the point where during pageant week, Miss America contestants must have chaperones when speaking with or seeing any males - including fathers or brothers.

Evil Captor, no, not really. Miss Universe 1974, Amparo Munoz, made some soft-core photographs before her reign and went on to do similar films (think HBO style) in the following decades, but it doesn’t happen very much. More common are photographs from a contestant’s younger, more desperate/wild days (think Vanessa Williams or Miss North Carolina 2002) surfacing and tarnishing her image. Only the most faded of runners-up or girls who didn’t place at all go from pageants to porn; competing in the pageant usually signifies you’ve moved on to something better and it would be a shame to go down from there.