Whats the difference between an Anglo and a Saxon?

Now that we’re discussing the anglo / saxon/ jutish invasion, isn’t it time to bring up Hengist and Horsa?

I believe legend has it that they were Angles (anglic?) mercenaries invited by some local ruler, to help in a domestic struggle, but soon took over (almost) the entire island.

What does modern history think of them? Should they be relegated to the same shady half-historical cupboard as king Arthur? (Who might have existed, but whos conduct probably had very little to do with the medieval stories of his exploits.)

According to my recollection (and this reference) they were Jutes not Angles. They were real too - I saw them in this film, in which Hengist invented the square wheel ;).

Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Normans … you English are just a bloody lot of immigrants! :wink:

The OP said:
"Is there a difference? I’ve heard the term Anglo, and I’ve heard the term Anglo Saxon. "

This sounds more to me like an issue of modern usage.

As Agback says, “Anglo” can be short for Anglo-Saxon.

But in modern usage, I bet more often Anglo is the term used by Hispanics in the US and maybe Mexico to refer to non-Hispanic whites, even if for the speaker the origin in the sense of “Anglo-Saxon” is lost in the mists of history.

Speaking of King Arthur, in a lot of fictional Arthurian stories, the Saxons seem to be their main enemies.

Guin, in all the genuine “Arthur” legends, he was the Celtic ruler making a defense against the tide of Germanic invaders. Arthur battled the Saxons the way Washington battled the British and Wellington the French.

BTW, Arthur very possibly was modeled after the real life Celtic Chieftain called Riothamus by the romans.

If you refer to lineage, then we’re ALL immigrants.

With the possible exception of people living halfway up a tree in Kenya at this moment.

Engles are an entirely different race from the Saxons. Why we got lumped in with those peaheads with a missing neck vertebrae is anyones guess.

I also object to the Engles being called immigrants. We didn’t just wander in past customs - we had to kill our fair share to carve out our claim in the time honoured way. One might as well speak of Alexander the Immigrant.

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Let’s just close this one.