"Obama served as president of the board of directors for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a large education-related nonprofit organization that Ayers was instrumental in starting. "
The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created by noted commie rat Walter Annenberg. An obvious communist front!
:rolleyes:
“Career-launcher”
Please illustrate, using quotes from this thread, what exactly I have said that is A)partisan and/or b)hackery.
I’m waiting.
See that Search Function? Type in Weirddave in the spot that says User Name. Then change the one that says Show as threads to Show As posts, and BINGO. There you go.
Seriously, do you think:
"Dance, puppets, dance!
Make those excuses, deny those facts, spin like a motherfucker!
Pathetic."
is anything BUT partisan hackery? Not one fact, not one ounce of substance, just an inane, partisanly biased, ad hominum.
If you need more, you can also look at these gems:
“The repeated denials from his disciples that this is the case (when it demonstratively is) have passed tiresome and are into amusing.”
and
“Hamlet posts a bunch of unsupported interpretations of the CAC and his word is sacrosanct, the author of the op-ed piece provides his interpretation of CAC’s activities and he’s a lying dog. Oh no, there’s no bias driven analysis going on here, none at all.”
“They’re puppets on a chain. If one says anything about Obama other than he’s bigger than the Beatles and twice as wonderful, their chain jerks and they foam at the mouth and attack. No substance. No thought.”
Hell, that’s not even touching on the parts of posts of yours that are pure spin with very little factual basis, like
“Obama launched his political career from Ayres’ living room for Christ’s sake.”
and
“Since the facts aren’t in dispute,…”
and
“The only thing you’re disputing is the degree of closeness of their relationship.”
Ah, red-baiting–the little black dress of Republican politics. Sure, they might update their wardrobes with new looks like gay-baiting and Muslim-baiting, but the classics never go out of style.
I and several other people have offered up many reasons why he would associate with Ayers.
Or you could look up his interview with Bill O’Reilly, where he answered many questions on this issue directly. Or any of several other interviews where he has done so.
All of those comments were directed at the content (or conspicuous lack thereof) of the posts trying to deny the facts. There is nothing partisan about that. It can be upsetting when someone points out that you’re a naked emperor, but it’s not partisan. The last 2 statements you quoted are simply true. Try again.
Dodge and weave, Dave. Dodge and weave.
Moderator’s Warning: Hamlet, this is not appropriate for this forum. Leave the personal insults in the Pit (or off the boards entirely).
This line has been stolen. Do not use this line again without acknowledging that it is mine, because I stole it.
I can’t imagine anyone wasting their time arguing with “Regards, Shodan” after all these years.
Who also funded FactCheck.org. They’ve been in on this for a while, even starting a “non partisan” website to assure us that Obama speaks the truth.
Hell, I wish the left could pull off a conspiracy like that! That would be groovy.
Especially not without any facts to back you up.
Regards,
Shodan
Question. According to Wikipedia, Bill Ayers wrote his “Fugitive Days” in 2001. Obama’s relationship with Ayers (whatever it was), started in the mid-90’s. Just how well-known was Ayer’s past? Would Obama have been expected to know the details?
There’s a difference between consorting with an ex-radical English professor with a long publication record in educational theory and consorting with “an unrepentant terrorist bomber”.
I’m just guessing here, but I imagine that if you met Bill Ayers in 1995, he wouldn’t start off the conversation with “Hi. I bombed the Pentagon 25 years ago. Want to radicalize some pre-schoolers?”
It was well known enough. I read about Ayers at considerable length in David Horowitz’s Destrustive Generation book around 1990, and that wasn’t the first place I saw him mentioned, nor the last.
It was certainly news when he came out of hiding.
I’ll say again - if this had been a right-wing bomber, nobody would have given this clown the time of day. He had fashionable political attitudes, tough, and was the son of a highly placed Chicago muckety-muck (head of Con-Ed, friend of Mayor Daley). Tom Ayers managed his son’s rehabilitation into polite society - and I guess we’re supposed to take Ayers seriously now when he stands on the flag.
This is why Kinsley has nothing but contempt for Ayers and for Bernardine Dohrn, who simultaneously expressed contempt for the court system while applying for the bar. His assessment, which I posted above, is probably the fairest one, and those people excusing Ayers really ought to read it.
I was living in Chicago when he was hired by University of Illinois - Chicago, and was against the hiring. I don’t like the man, his actions decades ago, or the prosecutorial misconduct that kept him out of jail.
By all means, dislike Ayers all you want. I’ll join you and we can have a few drinks over why we think he is contemptable. If you like, I won’t even mention the good things he’s done since then, how long ago those actions were, or the right’s penchant for judging a person on one episode. We can agree to dislike him together.
But this crap about his connection to Obama is nothing but just that… crap. They worked together to try and help Chicago Schools and other charitable work, and they met once at a party at Ayers house. And the right’s insistence on smearing Obama based on that is just plain malarkey.