Does storage in a safe make firearms useless if needed immediately?
Agreement in Great Debates. Hail Jeebus! 
Not everyone who wants to see less deaths by guns is an “anti-gun activist”
Well, when the Supreme court makes a gun ruling I dont like, i will let you know. Heller was a excellent ruling as Chicago, DC and SF went too far in banning all handguns. Note that that kind of radical gun grabbing is what it took to make SCOTUS make a new gun ruling, so those cities are 100% at fault for Heller.
Or safes or similar safety, yes. In fact I have said so. However, i am against laws that require everyone, even those with no kids to keep their guns locked up.
There are safes that open when you hand goes in with your fingers, they open REALLY fast, but no child can open them. Not cheap, but if I had a kid and wanted fast, safe handgun access, I’d get one.
Apparently law enforcement confiscation of contraband private property, and I have to assume that includes someone’s baggie of weed, is unconstitutional,
CMC fnord!
The weed isn’t being taken for public use, and if you steal something or are otherwise not in legal possession of something, it isn’t your property.
Regards,
Shodan
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Right now, it’s mandatory that babies be in car seats when traveling in a car. Would you favor mandatory trigger locks for guns in homes where toddlers are present?
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No, I wouldn’t mandate trigger locks as the only means of securing a firearm. I have no problem with a law requiring the safe storage of a firearm, be that in a safe, use of a trigger lock or whatever. The only issue I have with a trigger lock is that makes the firearm all but useless if needed immediately. If you secure you’re firearms in a safe, then trigger locks are redundant.
So while I can’t say I would be in favor of mandatory trigger locks I can say that if you own a firearm it is up to you, the owner, to ensure that your firearm is safety stored and inaccessible to children. If a child gets possessing of your firearm then I think the full weight of the system should rain down on your head. In fact I’ll go one further and say if you are irresponsible enough to allow children to get access to your firearms you should not be allowed to own them.
How many people do you hear screaming for cars to be banned? I haven’t heard a single one.
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I agree, you shouldn’t be allowed to own EITHER one. The gun or the child.
I have both. Just like I have both smoke alarms and fire extinguishers.
Regards,
Shodan
Unfortunately for you, if the law is Constitutional, you would prefer it
Answers like this are why I generally skip your posts and seldom respond to you.
I’ve wondered why I feel an emptiness in my soul sometimes. :rolleyes:
LOL! You believe in souls? LOL!
If you took the bus through the same parts of town I do, it wouldn’t seem so far-fetched.
Yes, that is a normal thing. :dubious:
Sometimes I wonder about you…
Where, in either of those cites, does it say that carrying a fire extinguisher in your car is a normal thing?
CMC fnord!
I was on vacation up in Vancouver a while back and was walking with the family through a few sketchy parts of town. Homeless tent cities, drug users that sort of thing. Made me nervous. Was actually on the way to the Vancouver Police Museum, surprisingly enough. (Nice little museum)
While there I was perusing a graph of their crime statistics and looked at the legend for the homicide rate. Took me a minute to find the line on the graph though. Because it was right along the x axis. About 15 homicides a year, in the whole city.
In that moment I developed a very different feeling about the “sketchy” areas of the city. They suddenly didn’t seem quite so dangerous anymore. I believe I laughed at how nervous I had been given that I’m more likely to be killed in my hometown than in their “dangerous” neighborhoods.
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Strange, I don’t think I know anybody in real life who has a fire extinguisher in their car. I’ll ask around.
Well, in my unscientific poll of 5 of my coworkers, nobody had a fire extinguisher in their car. And there were questions on what someone would actually do with a fire extinguisher in their car. None of us would actually try to put out our car if it was on fire.
I used mine, once, to put out a fire in somebody else’s car…but I know that isn’t going to mean anything to somebody who doesn’t so much as bother with a spare tire. Clearly, you just don’t grasp the idea of preparedness and so cling to the idea that anybody who is prepared is some kind of outlier.
I understand preparedness. I just don’t care enough about improbable events to be prepared for them. Sorry I don’t have your level of fear throughout my day.